Would you be happy with this guy in charge

Not a case of that at all Idle, I hardly know the guy, having spoken to him only once and briefly at their place. He doesn't seem to go to many, if any away games and not all the home games, in fact in the seasons we've played there he was only at the one game when I spoke to him. He doesn't socialise or welcome the visitors as he doesn't go in the Boardroom, leaves all that to Barry Fry so I can't either like or dislike. I have replied to Hoochy Min, see that also.

 

Thanks for the detailed reply., although cannot see your reply to Hoochy Min?

 

Yes I had seen it, Hoochy. Like everyone else on here I am entitled to my opinion, some clearly oppose that which is fair enough.
As another post Darragh has approaching £7 mil in loans of one sort or another. Prior to that post I was aware he effectively bankrolls the Club but didn't know it was to that extent which makes my comment the more valid, in my opinion. Posh are an average to upper level L1 side with a level of support which should be higher but isn't. Yes they have played above L1 but so have we, thus to a degree without our last season we would be on a par, without the millstone of a potential loan recall if Darragh gets bored or goes elsewhere.
As others have pointed out Darragh goes through Managers almost annually, this Jan/Feb being the exception to the usual culling season, yet every change (Westley, Evans, Ferguson twice, McCann and I think another) fails to bring success, hence my conclusion.

 

You must agree that the infrastructure at Posh has improved significantly in his tenure.

For all our success over the last few years we having nothing to show for it other than memories.

He could wipe out his loan to the club by settling their current prize asset. He won't because he believes in the investment.

To conclude, they have investment, infrastructure, vision, method and an ethos of attacking football.

We have none of those things.

 

He’s got a smaller club than ours to be more successful than us in the last 15 years, plus he’d be an upgrade on our last/current 4 co owners. I’m not his biggest fan reminds me a bit of a poor mans Richmond often talks the talk regarding his managers been amazing before discarding of them at the drop of a hat, however still better than what we have. So yes I’d take him.

 

Our most successful period since the PL was when Lawn was in joint-charge.

And I don't understand the sentiment that we live in the past with a cup run that happened a few years ago, when this thread has multiple posters pointing to Peterborough having a couple of seasons in the Championship an equally long time ago.

If we were in Peterborough's position, would any City fan mention being in the Championship a few years ago? It's hypocritical.

Not having a go at you Dave, and not having a go at anyone who would like MacAnthony to take charge, because I do see the upsides, but I think some of the reasoning is dubious at best.

"Success in the transfer market", but that only results in selling your best player again and again, "improved infrastructure based on loans", weren't posters having fits when they found out Lawn's investment was a loan, what's the difference, it too will need paying back at some point, and "attractive football", but still in League One.

MacAnthony's model has almost guaranteed a respectable league position in L1, has almost guaranteed goalscoring forwards, and has almost guaranteed admiration looking from the outside in.

So good business model, great signings, significant investment in the form of loans from an apparently cash-rich chairman, some of the top strikers to have ever competed in League One coming through the London Road gates, if we had all that in place tell me you wouldn't have expected Championship football before now.

 

Most balanced post in this thread for me.

Decent chairman with some weaknesses.

If he were to ever come to City, like I said in my first post in this thread, he would need to be more successful than he has been at Posh.

 

Thanks Jon and Wilsden, sanity replacing I'll founded outbursts at last. I think if I'd sunk that amount of money, plus the big profits they have made on transfers I would also expect Championship football.
If that had occurred at VP with the same result as Posh this site would be in melt down and demos at the ground.

 

Ill founded because they don't agree with your original comment? Give over soft lad. There would be no demos at the ground, there wasn't any last season in the worst season i've seen in 40 years of football at Valley Parade. And how exctly would you 'expect' championship football, Peterborough are a club from a small town with no history of any success until MacAnthony took over. Their wage structure is comparable with ours, yet they have league 1 football, have played three seasons in the championship in the last eleven seasons, currently have a category 2 academy, have a new stadium on the horizon. I guess some see facts as ill founded but each to their own.

 

You won't get a reply in regards to the long term infrastructure created at Posh. It's something the boardroom at VP has been allergic to for the last decade at least. Unless the fans pay for it of course.

 

There was a new ticketing system, you can’t forget the new ticketing system.

Maybe if the club had published full accounts we’d know where the record windfalls of recent years have gone. We’ve just had our transfer record for a sale. I’d like to know what the monthly management fee to Germany is.

 

It’s blxxdy obvious where it’s going we are spending way more every year than we bring in. So without the windfalls we would seriously have to wind it in

 

Bet it was just an oversight Den, we like to be upfront and transparent with our fans. Something the Peterborough chairman could learn from, oh hold on a minute......

 

Whether you agree or not Jon, Rupps tenure has been nothing short of rubbish. The man has been at the top whilst the club has gone backwards. Relegation, freefall all in his tenure. This season, as the owner we kept hold of Bowyer in his tenure and saw the team drift away from promotion places to mid table obscurity. His tenure, his call ultimately.

So yes, I would have MacAnthony at this stage. After all, we have a club in decline, sod all investment in infrastructure and a vision of living off scraps. It may be my club but I would like some morsels of excitement, energy and bloody vision both off and on the field to excite me. The idea of lower league and khazi football as the normal, don't excite me. Sorry.

 

Totally agree. Looking back now at that statement he wrote after Rahic had been kicked out, makes me grimace a bit. In fact, was that the last sort of public involvement he's been noted for? Can't think of anything else. And before someone says he's put his money in his pocket to bring new players to the club (and McCall). Really? I'm not buying that.

 

FFS, that’s like living in a huge house, driving a flash motor and taking expensive holidays, paid for on a credit card and hoping for a lottery win.

Maybe if Rhodes, who’s been at the helm for the majority of the last 20 years or so, and the saviour Rupp, had invested some of those windfalls in a proper scouting network, an academy or better youth system, the club wouldn’t be wasting millions on Josh Wrights, Joe Rileys, Hope Akpans, Jack Paynes, Sean Scannells, Jermaine Andersons, Kurtis Guthries, Butterfield, Seedorf, Bruenker, Alex Jones, Rouven, Raeders. Wasting millions renewing the squad. Every. Single. Season.

All of the money that’s come in has been pissed away on short termism and it’s failed. A well run business wouldn’t be begging its customers to pay for a scoreboard or to decorate a changing room. That’s the sort of stuff community clubs like Thackley or Eccleshill do.

At least Posh fans have hope, solid foundations and a belief that things can better, that the next star will be from their academy and then sold on to fund the next generation. Accrington, the same, a chairman who invests in the right things, keeping the club free of debt and making sure it’s there for the next generation of fans.

What have City fans got? An invisible CEO and an owner with zero connection to the City who in my opinion needs to shit or get off the pot. In my opinion the club appears to have been poorly managed to different degrees for a long time, take the Parky years and 1996-2000 out there has been nothing but failure for most of the last half century.

 

How many football clubs run at a profit every year anyway? Without looking it up I’m going to guess very few. Losses are part and parcel of the game and until very recently we’ve been fairly stable from a financial viewpoint. Truth is, we’ve also wasted a ridiculous amount of money over the years.

Parkinson signs Aaron McLean who turned out to be useless and there went the bulk of the Wells money. We then go on another miracle cup run, increase the budget and he wastes it again by signing high calibre players who simply didn’t justify their wage. Paul Anderson, Steve Davies, Mark Marshall, Mark Yeates and Josh Morris, all on big first team wages, all warming the bench depleting our large budget.Before you know it there goes another windfall wasted signing absolute crap or attacking players our manager simply didn’t know how to get the best out of.

We then rake it in again for what seemed like the 100th time with the Wisdom, Wells and Wyke money. Where does it go? Signing more duds like Akpan, Wright, Scannel etc as well as funding the dream of an absolute lunatic.

Another windfall wasted. Surely we won’t strike lucky again?

Only we do. Mcburnie gets sold to Sheffield and we net a mammoth £3M. This time it goes back towards paying back a multi millionaire who refuses to accept accountability for his self-indicted mess.

Appalling from a so called professional club. Over several years, through a combination of mismanagement and woeful decision making we’ve pissed literally millions down the drain and the only answer you’ve got for it is that the club run at a loss? Give over.

 

Ill founded outbursts. I'll assume that's a thinly veiled dig at me so I'm biting.

He took over at Posh in 2006 when they were in L2 and we were in L1. Let's briefly break down what our respective clubs have achieved from then until now.

We have dropped a division. We have a stadium with almost 15 more years of wear and tear that we patch up and don't own. We train at a school. We've had 1 player score 20+ goals in a season. We've had unparalleled Cup luck and the money earned not invested. We've had record transfer fees from our players and lucky sell ons of former youth players and the money hasn't been invested. We have the lowest level youth academy. We have an excellent fan base but didn't time it correctly to increase prices in line with our success and we're now stuck with cheap tickets.

Contrast with Posh since 2006. They are a division higher and have spent 3 seasons in the Championship. They've had several 20+ goal scorers that they've sold on for massive profit. They've used that profit to build an infrastructure which makes them sustainable including a Cat2 youth system . A new ground on the way with support of investors and developers. Saleable assets in their squad that could wipe out the debt to the chairman if he desired.

Who's made the most progress in the last 15 years? Who's still making progress? Who's bumbling along from season to season?

Imagine what he could have done here in the same timescale.

 

Not a dig at all Hoochy. As you said before, differences of opinion.