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World war 3....

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 11, 2022.

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What will be the likely outcome

  1. Russia will back down

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  2. Ukraine will back down

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  3. It will drag on for years as is

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  4. Russia will fire nukes in Ukraine but NATO will not get involved

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  5. Russia will fire nukes in Ukraine and will be WW3

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  1. trevor

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    All avoidable had the west and NATO seen sense and agreed no membership of NATO for Ukraine, It has now given carte blanche to Putin to get Ukraine back in the fold and our foolish leaders bring us closer to a war we cannot win,
     
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    So we should have backed down?
     
  3. trevor

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    Yes because it was the right thing to do, There was no way Russia was going to accept NATO forces possibly nuclear armed based in the Ukraine on its border, There was a deal to be done but the USA and UK are belligerent on Russia even sending arms and training troops, Putin just saw that as escalation that if he could not get any agreement he might as well go ahead with his own solution
     
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    China and the invasion of Taiwan will be next, I said earlier I could see Putins point with regards NATO countries sitting on Russia borders with weapons aimed at Russia.
     
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    Boris is sanctioning 5 Russian banks, 3 Russian oligarchs and freezing their assets whilst banning travel to Britain, Chelsea out of business ?.
     
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    A power-hungry mad man invades neighbouring sovereign country in Europe making historic claim to land, despite weeks of claiming he has no intention of invading, against a backdrop of fascism and communism being on the rise, civil liberties being infringed and the dehumanisation of a particular demographic. I’ve seen this documentary before.
     
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    Aren't we supposed to learn from history.
     
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  8. Faithful Bantam

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    Yes. But do we ever?
     
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    As I said above if Russia get away scots-free the next to try it will be China they have already
    reneged on things the said they wouldn't do when Chris Pattern the governor of Hong Kong handed it back to China in 1997 ?
     
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    Away with your wild conspiracy theories!
     
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    They’ve already got away Scots-free with annexing Crimea, shooting down a civilian plane and invading Georgia. There’s nothing to stop them this time either. The “West” is divided on so many levels, Russia is taking advantage.
     
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    This has been a long time coming. Marxist ideology has infected education and media for the last 30 years. Cracks in Western society have grown and grown in that period of time. There's no unity or strength in the West. We're about to see a new era of true Russian and Chinese influence dominating the landscape. And it may involve widespread conflict along the way.
     
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    I used to play a computer game as a teenager that sounded strangely familiar to what’s going on now, it came out in 2008 granted they were two years out shame on them.
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    Worse to come in the future, The USAs strength in the world is through the dollar and in future other currencies even digital ones will erode the dollar and weaken the influence the USA has,
     
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    Margaret Hodge was on TV this morning talking about legislation the Labour Party brought in and the Tories have continued with it, saying there was little control with regards either the Russian or Chinese who bought into it and purchased the likes of property in London etc.
     
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    Think I read yesterday that the percentage of Russian reserves held in USD had been reduced from, don't quote me, something like 30% to 3%. It also said they were lifting their restrictions on crypt-currencies
     
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    War started, Russia began invasion of Ukraine this morning
     
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    Putin.. War criminal.
     
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    Putin knows he can do whatever he wants. This will be just the start. What started out 2 years as the changing face of the world order is just going to ramp up and up. The West is done. The cost of living is going to spiral.

    Whether we get dragged into conflict or not, shits going to get very, very real for people.
     
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    China is the elephant in the room, the west can all gather round and impose sanctions all they want, however if China refuses or even worse sees what Russia is doing and thinks lets do that ourselves and take Tiawan then the trade with China and access to the markets through there would make many of the sanctions useless.

    There is also the stockpile that Russia has built up which means sanctions won't bite for years to come. Thatcher did it with the miners, he saw them strike when she had huge stockpiles of coal so the strike was effectively useless as it caused no damage as part of the leverage they used.
     

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