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When do we start to question Hopkin?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    Think unfortunately some fans don't take the game seriously enough. It's a day out for some and they don't care if we win or lose.

    The cheap tickets are now having a reserve effect.

    Hopkin hasn't been good enough so far but some on here just seem to think it is what it is! No, he is a manager and he gets judged on results.

    We've become a set of weak fans.
     
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  2. Ricky

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    We have seen a slight improvement in recent weeks but you can't fully judge hopkin without a transfer window behind him as I said yesterday you wouldn't ask a joiner to build you something without the correct tools he requires.
     
  3. Fordy117

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    I would if he knew about the tools he was going to be using.

    What happens if Rupp doesn't get the cheque book out? More excuses for Hopkin?

    I haven't seen a slight improvement at all. We look awful at the back but keep signing midfielders
     
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    Compare the October and November results. If you can't see an improvement then you either can't read or there's a big problem with your cognition.
     
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  5. Fordy117

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    I don't see improvement in play.

    We're a shambles at the back and look shi&e.
     
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    Agreed. He has become a parody of himself. And I suspect he doesn't yet understand why few people take him seriously.
     
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    Fordy has misery down to an art form
     
  9. Fordy117

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    Look at the division 1 table.
    Look at Hopkin's record here so far

    Then come back to me.
     
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    I know exactly where we are in the table... and so do most other posters

    I know what Hopkin's record has been since he took over the managerial role ... and so do most other posters

    And I have a strong suspicion you do too since you have a fondness for repeating yourself.

    This is post #410 on this thread and according to the stats, you have posted 49 of them. And the vast majority of yours say the same sodding thing time and time again without proposing any real and positive solutions on what you'd do to improve matters! How's about you changing with your continual negative outlook and proposing something positive for a change? ;)
     
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  11. Fordy117

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    We're not improving and now so just accept defeat or a draw.

    Suppose what I want is for fans to understand this isn't good enough and questions do need to be asked of Hopkin.

    Hopkin doesn't have a free pass at Bradford City does he?
     
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    No he doesn't but at the moment it is impossible to assess him. The one thing that is clear is how Edin shafted Michael just as he shafted Stuart; 2 fellow human beings.
     
  13. Offcomedun

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    You really are a stuck record.

    We ARE improving.
    In October our record (in all competitions) was:
    P7 W1 D0 L6 GF6 GA19
    In November our record was:
    P7 W1 D3 L3 GF8 GA12

    Which means we scored more, conceded considerably fewer, lost fewer games and got more points. By any yardstick that is improvement, and if you can't see that then there's no hope for you.

    EVERYONE understands that this still isn't good enough. The difference is that, unlike you, most sensible fans don't expect Hopkin to have turned this bunch of misfits into world beaters overnight. Most people realise that it takes time to turn such a poor, mismatched squad into a functioning team. The signs are that this is happening (eg we are making fewer individual errors, conceding fewer goals and showing more fight if we go behind).
    The fact that most people aren't slagging Hopkin doesn't mean they 'lack ambition' (your favourite trite mantra) - it means they recognise that Hopkin has a difficult job on his hands and is starting to turn things around. Most people can recognise improvement when they see it, unlike you.
     
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    If Rupp doesn't back him it's not Hopkins fault is it. He said on radio yesterday we need another 4 players at least in jan. First thing that struck me with hopkin is he said the players weren't fit enough and he felt as if they hadn't had a pre season,that takes time to build up them upto speed but now players are actually lasting the distance of 90 mins. Yes results could and should be better but if you are judging hopkin on what he has had to change he ain't no miracle worker.
     
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    What exactly does 'performances haven't improved' mean?

    If the stats have improved, chances are, performances have improved (otherwise stats would be the same...) . So how does that make sense?

    'Performance' is an undefinable intangible used in the absence of real evidence.
     
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    Hoppy will be well happy tonight maybe a wee dram Rangers top of the league.
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    Who is this "we" you allude to? You certainly don't speak for the fans of this great club.
     
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  19. Fordy117

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    Well "some" lack fight and ambition now hence why they accept failure.

    Hopefully we will win our next 3 games in a row.

    We all want to get out of this mess don't we? Draws not good enough now!
     
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    He's right Fordy. We are not weak but understand what has happened cannot be overturned at the click of fingers. We are improving, albeit slowly as David has only been able to work with what he has got. We are in a mess and it will take a lot of hard work to get out of it. We might go down this season, we might not but by going forward together, we will get back.
     
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