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What Do We Get With Adams

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Ulysses S Grant, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. pafcprogs

    pafcprogs Breakthrough Prospect

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    Another green here

    Adams started out as the Messiah.....five year plan, headhunted by the CEO at the time using proper criteria for the club etc etc

    He brought in players that got an underwhelming reaction like Carey and Bradley, and after a complete blow out at Wembley v the Dons we won promotion alongside Doncaster and Pompey being pipped on the final day by losing at Grimsby ( as we so often do when we shouldn't)

    So in league 2 he was golden.....League 1 was more of a battle.....we struggled first season then hit a golden spell where a run at the play offs looked possible...Ruben Lameiras, another signing who underwhelmed and almost go shipped out to Oldham soggily became the Portuguese Man o'Score and alongside Carey we looked like the surprise momentum team until we blew up at Northampton and then injuries took their toll and we finished mid table.

    Then came the disaster.....signed Ladapo ( again underwhelming as a signing but who started scoring for fun) but seemingly lost the defence with the likes of Bradley leaving and never being successfully replaced. We also had a rookie keeper from Arsenal in Matt Macey who was perceived as a weak link by the fans. Truth is no-one can say what was happening back stage but there were rumours he lost the dressing room, that Ladapo was disruptive and in the end a horrible end of season collapse including a pathetic 5-1 down tools at Accrington meant we were in the hands of Sunderland reserves at Southend whose lamentable performance meant a last day win v Scunthorpe meant nothing.


    So he left us as he found us, brought in some very good players and some very average ones.

    He was marmite at the end and still gets a passionate debate on Pasoti whenever he pops up. The football was functional and successful in the main. He winds up the opposition ( especially Whycome and Pompous) and his press interviews are a marvel of blinkered one-sidedness. Single minded, obsessive and bloody minded spring to mind but others equally have found him good company and a willing conversationalist.

    He probably needed to go from Argyle....some argue he lost the players and yet many follow him from club to club, notably Songo'o, Mellor and Diagouraga, but also the likes of Jervis Slew Letheren, He is happy to play without the ball yet brought in flair like Carey and Lameiras and Ladapo whose transfer fee from a free transfer signing paid for promotion the following season. he doesn't have to spend a lot of money to succeed in League 2 and in truth he never had a huge budget in league 1 ( and you will be told regularly how he is overachieving against that handicap).

    He isn't going to be a PR whizz like a Holloway might be....I suspect you will sign a few players you will simply have to google...but he does use the loan system well and you will have some grafters who can scrap.

    I'd say the odds on promotion for Bradford will shorten having him in there.....so good luck.

    On balance despite how it ended he was the right man for us to get out of League 2 and I for one will watch your results with interest
     
  2. Idlebantam

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    I read that Adams had his players in for training most Sundays since the New Year to improve fitness. A bit of a shock to the system to current players at City I would imagine.
     
  3. How

    How Knows Football
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    About time. Don’t remember us been particularly fit since Parky left really
     
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  4. Plym

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    Adams also has double training sessions on Tuesday's and Thursday's (if there's no midweek games), several players at Argyle struggled with this but the team was certainly fit.
     
  5. Ulysses S Grant

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    Good. It's a short career, they are paid well enough. Make the toerags earn their money
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    'About time we had a prickly character'

    Six months later

    'Oh my God, Adams told an obnoxious fan where to go' :mad::mad::mad:

    Hehehe, enjoy the ride!!
     
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  7. Johnnymccole

    Johnnymccole Emergency Backup

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    If he’s still here after 3 years we’ll be knocking on door of championship, or maybe even there!!
     
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  8. Botswana Bantam

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    Thanks for coming on and sharing that.
     
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  9. Botswana Bantam

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    For what it's worth I'm hoping a combination of Turnbull and Adams will mean we get a good mix of grafting players, players Adams knows, new players and flair players.

    At least we have Crankshaw and Vernham with some pace. Perhaps this "solid at the back and freedom for the flair players" will suit quicker players like Crankshaw and Vernham and Cooke as well?

    If he can get our defence solid then that's a good first step.
     
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  10. Skyebantam

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    Dunno about Derek Adams, but I got a couple of mini bags of Haribo bunged in with my electrical parts order this week. I’d hope we get more than that.

    i’ll have a word with any Staggies fans I meet up here, he did OK at FC Dingwall, too.
     
  11. Lordbantam

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    The only plan is to get promoted the other thing is in your head
     
  12. Jack Daniels

    Jack Daniels Emergency Backup

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    Appreciate the warning but I’m a little confused.
    Season1 (League2) - Plymouth scored 75 goals in 49 games (inc 3 in POs). They won just 5 of those games 1-0.
    Season2 (League2) - Plymouth scored 71 goals in 46 games. They won 6 games by a goal to nil.
    Season3 (League1) - Plymouth scored just 58 goals in 46 games. Despite that, they still only won 6 games 1-0.
    Season4 (League1). Plymouth were relegated after scoring only 56 times. They won 2 games by that scoring.

    Total record at Argyie was 252 goals in 186, despite a disastrous 4th season. But in those 186 league games, only 19 of them were won 1-0. That’s 10%. Is the reality different to your perception?
     
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  13. Doodle

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    I'm not going to go the effort you clearly have with the number crunching but I believe his win rate was 40% That would mean 1 in every 4 wins was 1-0... might feel like a lot if you're watching it every other week
     
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  14. hornseabantam

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    I think Sparks deserves a lot of kudos for this appointment. Of course, we'll see how it all plays out next season in real life, but Adams has four promotions and two cup wins under his belt. He's proven himself to be bloody ruthless and right now, we don't need nice guys.
     
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  15. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

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    But they were both no nonsense disciplinarians and temper they had much!
     
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  16. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

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    This guy is going to give us one hell of a ride. He'll get sent off more than any of our players. Watch on Youtube!
     
  17. JonButterfield

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    Everybody on this forum will be okay with the idea until it actually happens - then it'll kick off :joy:
     
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  18. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

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    I know Jon. Reality continues to be a shitter. But....there's always hope. And dammnit, it's the hope that hurts us most!
     
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  19. Park bantam

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    Worryingly August as well
     
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  20. Park bantam

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    Seems Morecambe don’t agree player of the year for them
     
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