What are Stefan's intentions for the Club?

Yeah but at the moment just about every fooballl league club is bigger than Bradford City thanks to those who are steering our club.

Perhaps that's the plan. Make us so rubbish that any move is looked upon as a forward step.

 

This post deserved much better.

 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2xslhJotE6qVdaivZJ8yVx?si=Pjxkw9-CTz2nOCz8FW4w-g&nd=1&_authfailed=1

Have a listen, is his early comment about Paul Simpson getting the best from his Carlisle squad a side swipe at Sparkie ?, he mentions not having a money tree but to be fair I never heard him comment with regards Rupp none financial investment with regards the player budget side.

 

Only 1 choice for D.o.F: Stuart,Stuart……

 

Probably echoing a lot of what's been said here but it's not the budget that's the issue. An owner and CEO with no prior interest or experience in football is a major issue - and when you look at the mess we've been in under his ownership it's no coincidence. It took a mere 2 seasons to scupper all the progress we had made throughout the 2010's, the cup runs, establishing ourselves at the top end of League One and just needing that extra push to get to the Championship.

We're relying on the same man who got us into this mess to somehow get us out of it. If he was smart enough to do that, we wouldn't be here in the first place.

We're trusting the same man who believed Rahic knew football, to appoint more people who need to know football. Maybe he'll offset that task to the CEO, but the CEO doesn't know football either.


Also, how sustainable are we? We don't own the ground, or the training ground. Our academy is decent and produces a decent prospect who we sell every few years.

The majority of our "sustainability" comes from 17000+ fans being repeatedly sold on a half-arsed promotion bid, and how much longer is that going to work after half a decade in the basement division? It's a castle built on sand. We're not self-sustainable as part of a noble goal, we're "self sustainable" at the owners convenience

 

Sustainability has nothing to do with owning the ground as that would come with a double digit interest rate on the loan to buy it.

 

That's true, I just meant that it's not in our possession and generating us income

 

It could generate us as much income as we want. No reason not to use it for concerts, weddings, conferences etc if we wanted. It generates income from meetings and speed awareness courses. Owning it would do nothing apart from having a debt to pay because no club owner in their right mind would buy it from his own money and not charge rent.

For example liverpool pay rent on anfield to FSG.

Owning it wouldn't make us better off, it would just double the cost to any interested party wanting to buy us, who would then more than likely split ownership to a subsidiary company and charge the football club rent.

 

Of course owning the ground makes us better off. The ground will belong to the club and increase the value of the club meaning that more serious buyers will be interested in buying us to take the club forward.

Increases commercial opportunities and sponsorship. Not just from the likes of JCT600. I am talking bigger than that.

We have Rupp who isn’t serious about this club. Taking us nowhere. Doing nothing! Hardly anyone interested in buying us because we own Jack all!

 

It would increase the cost of the club to any potential buyer, but the value? Not sure about that, or your suggestion that owning the ground would increase commercial opportunities and sponsorship. If a company wants to be associated with us they want to be associated with us, whether we own the ground or not is not going to change that.

 

How ? Explain more.

Own the ground, increases the value of the club and the price but because its no other use doesn't really increase the assets. Therefore makes us harder to buy.

Also explain.how it increases commercial opportunity? Do we ask FLPP for permission to use it for other events ? No. Do we pay FLPP a cut of what we generate from its use ? No.

Owning the ground is unlikely to make any difference to the value of the club in any shape or form other than your obsession that we are worse off by not owning it.

Own the ground, who pays for it ? Oh yes, Rupp, so he owns it and we pay rent to him, does that make us have more income ? Probably not.

Owning the ground makes us no more sellable than not owning it, assets cost money, that increases value. That increases price.

 

All this talk of Sparks' little Audi, that's why this club can't get anywhere. He should be driving a Bentley, get the plates 1 RS on there and we are headed for glory!

 

It would also raise the selling price by the same amount. Of course it would be good to own the ground again but it’s not an immediate priority

 

There was little anti sparks stuff spouted on here until the defeat on Saturday. The blame for our poor start to the season which in part will be rectified on Saturday is down to Hughes and his assistant as was the failure to get up last season with a good squad. 3 home games from 4 now at least 9 points required and it’s very doable

 

That would be 16 points from 8, an average of 2 a game, times that by 46 and that's 92 points. Perhaps all is not doom and gloom. However I am one of those that currently remains to be convinced

 

On paper it's doable but in the real world ?????
I just the Crewe game is massive even this early we win that and he get a bit of slack going into a tough game at Mansfield

We pick up less than a win and a loss at Mansfield then we go into two games that will regard us as there cup final which is never easy

 

I agree Hughes has to be given more time but I can’t see his negative approach being successful in the long term very disappointing considering what sort of player he was

 

Would you buy a football club that didnt have its own stadium? Of course you wouldn’t. How much would Rupp have to pay to build a new stadium if VP was made unavailable to us? 10s of millions. So yes owning a ground makes us more sellable. Thats why most of the time new owners look to buy back the clubs stadium as quickly as possible.
I can think of Leeds as an example or Stoke after the council helped them build the Britannia as it was at the time.
Now renting your stadium is fine if you are making back what you earn from what the stadium brings in but I very much doubt that this is the case with us but I could be wrong.

We also dont use VP for any other events? It’s not as if we have used the ground for concerts like a lot of clubs do to generate cash. We dont own the ground so it would have absolutely nothing to do with us and would be of no gain to us is someone like Ed Sheeran came do a concert at our stadium.

The training facilities I can accept but not owning your own Stadium doesn’t sit right with me.

 

So you don’t think if Rupp was to sell that he would include the cost of the ground in the price. Of course he would if a new owner wants to own the ground he could negotiate with the pension fund

 

Not owning their own stadiums is really holding the likes of Man City, Newcastle and Chelsea back.