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  1. BSABantam74

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  2. RonnieBrown

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    As stated over a year ago .....

    WHERE ? ..........
    Between both Manchester and Wakefield roads, also purchasing St James market area.

    WHO ? ..............
    Many of whom are savvy, but not rich enough, alone. Bradford Council could at last make a wise decision, whilst other City entrepreneurs see a fast way to ingrain any financial foothold, in our City.

    A case of be bolder to be brighter, or brighter, to become bolder ?
     
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  3. BSABantam74

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    all would and likely in bigger numbers ! Growing and developing the club. The massive interest such an undertaking would create would propel the club forward into this century. Also make us ripe or big investment which one of us is unable to see a better future away from Manningham ? Yes I get all the sentiment and history and I respect everything we have known at Valley Parade down the years. But a rebuilt Odsal serving football and rugby can be catalyst for rebuilding Bradfords broken economy and reshaping perceptions. Is it time to look again seriously at Odsal ? We don't even own VP so it's not as if we loose an asset of the club if were to up sticks ?
     
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  4. BradfordBanter

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    Cham & Prem = 42
    L1 & L2 = 62

    I've no idea what you're gettting at it? You've just proved what I was saying.
     
    #38 BradfordBanter, May 25, 2019
  5. Bigrod

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    I think Odsal is a soulless hole with little parking and a mile and a half away from Low Moor station (40 minute walk). For sure from my own perspective it is closer to where l live, but that in itself is not attractive as it is somewhere devoid of the external attributes which make a good match day experience.

    The Westfield centre area (former hole in Bradford) would have been a good location with perhaps shops/offices set in the area below the stands would have been excellent opportunity for a modern stadium, integrating commercial, retail and sporting excellence. But hey that would have needed politicians with vision and a club with the acumen and finance to push it forward. Lost opportunity.
     
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    Exactly
     
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  7. BSABantam74

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    Odsal is not difficult to get to ? Looking around VP on match days the vast majority of the fan base commutes into Bradford from the wider district. I would estimate that the % of the crowd walking through the gates on match day and living in the shadow of the ground would be less than 1% !?
     
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    Usually where theres a will there's a way ?
     
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    Respect for the time plotting the journey. But it does emphasise that predominantly the City support comes in down the Aire Valley. If you think about places like Bolton, Boro, Derby, Brighton when they relocated. They were moving away from inner City sites so for Bradford Odsal would be no different really.

    As of now you have to make more effort to get there. But the transport system up to the new stadium would need upgrading. How about electric trams up Manchester Road and back to cater for stadium access from the City? Surely that's easy enough; there's a lot of that in Germany out to stadia on the outskirts of towns.

    Or build the new stadium down the Aire Valley ? How about on large patches of open ground off the link road on the site of Silsden FC ?
     
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  11. Bigrod

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    Actually I come in over the M62/M606 as do a lot of others. So getting to Silsden is going to add another hour plus on my journey. There is also the nightmare of Fox’s corner and Saltaire to negotiate if you drive!!!

    The ‘flood plain’ of the River Aire doesn’t seem an ideal place to build.

    If City were to relocate then a site within the loosely termed ‘ring road’ really has to be the aim. Perhaps a stadium accommodating Football and Rugby? Sell off Odsal for light industry/warehousing/residential development and bring/keep professional sport in Bradford.
     
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    A quick question, how much did City pay towards the building of the new Valley Parade stadium, because i cannot remember.

    A new stadium would require an owner with very deep pockets, the like we have never seen so far.
     
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    I don’t think we have a choice, the time of both teams sharing a decent stadium have long gone. I have an emotional attachment with Valley Parade but would love to see an arena with the facilities to accomdate all sport in Bradford. Won’t happen in my life time, there again i’m not sure of the long term validity of sport in Bradford.
     
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    I cannot agree that Bradford City AFC remaining at its current home will ever see the club progress. It may not be in the immediate future but in the medium to long term the club has to leave Valley Parade. I get all the sentiment and history by jove I do. But shoe horned into a poor social and economic area that it's fan base has absolutely no social connection with is not the future of a progressive sporting club. We need to meet the needs of a more discerning and modern fan base. It's been done up and down the land and across the globe. Are we saying that Bradford City fans are not deserving of the same sort of environment as a Brighton fan or a Boro fan or a Derby fan ?. For goodness sake we do not actually own the title deeds to Valley Parade ? So where's the umbilical cord tying us to this place. There isn't one only some sentimental notion that "it's our Home"

    Take me home Midland Road to the place I belong to the Valley see the City take me home take me home. It's like saying I'm not moving out this back to back terrace till I go out in a box ! Just because me ancestors lived here ? When there's a brand new detached across the City where your family can grow and prosper.
     
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  15. Bronco

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    I'm not sure the stadium or it's surroundings have any effect of whats produced on the pitch although I do agree with your highlighted comment not the best surrounding area.
    We didn't have a problem with 16/17,000 fans attending during the Parky era and 19/20,000 during Stuarts first season, many grounds were situated very close to the community Liverpol, Everton, Manchester City even Manchester United is not the best for getting away from, and our resent visit to The Stadium Of Light was a nightmare to get away from.
    If we are ever lucky enough to get big financial backers I personally wouldn't have a problem with moving from Valley Parade even with all the good, bad and sad memories it holds for us but as we are discussing the location has to be right.
     
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    ***WINNER***
     
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  17. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    But Spurs are in London so the actual area is a bit irrelevant PLUS they have been successful (overall) for generations.

    Even Sheff Wed and United have a history of higher support, higher division football than us.

    I suggested that we move as it brings new life to the club, it can drive other streams of revenue beyond match day receipts. Lets be frank I am not going near Valley Parade for anything other than football. There area in no way whatsoever attracts anyone. Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd etc don't have this issue. They are an attraction in and of themselves and they now have the critical mass to attract no matter where they are. We simply don't so we need to wring everything out of what we have and it's not going to happen at VP...and finally....we don't own it and, other than saving on lease payments, there is no attraction to it as an asset.

    I believe that we should be looking at a mid to long term move to another location. Like every business where you are and what that brings to your business is important.

    I still like the idea of the shopping mall site just next to Midland Railway, flat, in town, close to transport links and other facilities. Why not....Luton have managed to do it.

    I get the history but it is time to let go of it.
     
    #75 Feats Don't Fail Me Now, May 26, 2019
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    Are you joking?

    Sport is viable, long term, in any small town.

    Why is Bradford, a city, completely different to everywhere else in the UK?
     
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    Just an opinion on the professional sport teams in Bradford in the next generation. Could be wrong, have been before.
     
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    Oh just an addendum. I think there is more chance of City getting a brand new stadium than Bradford developing a comprehensive tram system! Manchester has used a number of former railway lines to build its system, a comparable option is no longer readily available in the Bradford area. Furthermore there is no plan to provide a rail link between Forster Square and the Interchange. So you are stuck with the current transport system for the long term.
     
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