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We Should Be The New Rangers!

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BSABantam74, May 25, 2019.

  1. BSABantam74

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    Respect for the time plotting the journey. But it does emphasise that predominantly the City support comes in down the Aire Valley. If you think about places like Bolton, Boro, Derby, Brighton when they relocated. They were moving away from inner City sites so for Bradford Odsal would be no different really.

    As of now you have to make more effort to get there. But the transport system up to the new stadium would need upgrading. How about electric trams up Manchester Road and back to cater for stadium access from the City? Surely that's easy enough; there's a lot of that in Germany out to stadia on the outskirts of towns.

    Or build the new stadium down the Aire Valley ? How about on large patches of open ground off the link road on the site of Silsden FC ?
     
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    Actually I come in over the M62/M606 as do a lot of others. So getting to Silsden is going to add another hour plus on my journey. There is also the nightmare of Fox’s corner and Saltaire to negotiate if you drive!!!

    The ‘flood plain’ of the River Aire doesn’t seem an ideal place to build.

    If City were to relocate then a site within the loosely termed ‘ring road’ really has to be the aim. Perhaps a stadium accommodating Football and Rugby? Sell off Odsal for light industry/warehousing/residential development and bring/keep professional sport in Bradford.
     
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    As a stadium Odsal has a lot of potential but it really does need vast amounts of dosh spending on it. Probably the best site has already been mentioned, the retail park next to the Midland station. It's central, just off a major ring road and next to a railway station. Oh and it's within staggering distance of N.Parade. That idea is for the fairies though, will never happen.
     
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    Pubs.
    Chapel House, Guide Post, White Swan, Ancient Foresters, Garden Shed(the old Wibsey WMC) Market Tavern, Top House, Woodman, Red Lion, Q Gardens,Drop Kick.
    Food Outlets,
    New KFC on roundabout at Odsal, McDonalds, Pearls Tearoom & Patisserie, Toby Carvery, t' Chippy ( Odsal Top), Pizza Hut Halifax Rd Domino Pizza Manchester Rd and several fast food outlets in Wibsey itself that would certainly open early on a Saturday to catch football fans.
     
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    A quick question, how much did City pay towards the building of the new Valley Parade stadium, because i cannot remember.

    A new stadium would require an owner with very deep pockets, the like we have never seen so far.
     
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    Or, how about the best option, staying where we are
     
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    I don’t think we have a choice, the time of both teams sharing a decent stadium have long gone. I have an emotional attachment with Valley Parade but would love to see an arena with the facilities to accomdate all sport in Bradford. Won’t happen in my life time, there again i’m not sure of the long term validity of sport in Bradford.
     
  8. BSABantam74

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    I cannot agree that Bradford City AFC remaining at its current home will ever see the club progress. It may not be in the immediate future but in the medium to long term the club has to leave Valley Parade. I get all the sentiment and history by jove I do. But shoe horned into a poor social and economic area that it's fan base has absolutely no social connection with is not the future of a progressive sporting club. We need to meet the needs of a more discerning and modern fan base. It's been done up and down the land and across the globe. Are we saying that Bradford City fans are not deserving of the same sort of environment as a Brighton fan or a Boro fan or a Derby fan ?. For goodness sake we do not actually own the title deeds to Valley Parade ? So where's the umbilical cord tying us to this place. There isn't one only some sentimental notion that "it's our Home"

    Take me home Midland Road to the place I belong to the Valley see the City take me home take me home. It's like saying I'm not moving out this back to back terrace till I go out in a box ! Just because me ancestors lived here ? When there's a brand new detached across the City where your family can grow and prosper.
     
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    I'm not sure the stadium or it's surroundings have any effect of whats produced on the pitch although I do agree with your highlighted comment not the best surrounding area.
    We didn't have a problem with 16/17,000 fans attending during the Parky era and 19/20,000 during Stuarts first season, many grounds were situated very close to the community Liverpol, Everton, Manchester City even Manchester United is not the best for getting away from, and our resent visit to The Stadium Of Light was a nightmare to get away from.
    If we are ever lucky enough to get big financial backers I personally wouldn't have a problem with moving from Valley Parade even with all the good, bad and sad memories it holds for us but as we are discussing the location has to be right.
     
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    We're really fortunate to support a club based on the periphery of the city centre. All roads lead there.

    I was at Anfield yesterday for the Magic Weekend and, being a few miles out of town, it wasn't an ideal location to get to. The areas around Anfield and Goodison don't appear to be particulary prosperous but it hasn't stopped those two clubs from prospering.
     
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    I don't see why. Nothing that you could to do odsal that cant be done to modernise VP. Its a 26k all seater stadium and it is showing its age a lot but if we were to progress up the leagues then money would be found to do it up. Just seems like throwing a lot of money where we could just refurb VP. Yes it's in a poor area but thats where we need to engage with the community around the club. Bear in mind the last encounter local residents had with city fans was being racially abused so why would they be invested in it. For all its worth I just don't think we'd get that many benefits from a move.
     
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    ***WINNER***
     
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    I think @TRB101@TRB101 has commented on Liverpool and Everton. I would add Spurs who have built a brand new stadium. Have a read, ‘Tottenham Hotspur, the world’s 11th richest club, plays in one of Britain’s most deprived areas. The club has angered locals by protesting that the streets around its new £850m stadium are too dirty for fans and could damage its ambitions to establish “one of the world’s most unique entertainment venues”. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/22/london-streets-too-dirty-claim-super-rich-spurs
    Have you ever been to St James or Villa Park? I can assure you that despite being in an industrial wasteland, then the Etihad is in a fairly interesting area in Manchester and the streets around Old Trafford are mainly old style industrial area’s some terrace housing and a bland but necessary route in from Trafford. Similarly the two Sheffield clubs are in areas which are not the most affluent!
    I guess you could go to Harrogate Town?
     
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    Luton Town you go through someones back yard, Darlington (Feethams) you had go the a park to get to the ground.
     
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    But Spurs are in London so the actual area is a bit irrelevant PLUS they have been successful (overall) for generations.

    Even Sheff Wed and United have a history of higher support, higher division football than us.

    I suggested that we move as it brings new life to the club, it can drive other streams of revenue beyond match day receipts. Lets be frank I am not going near Valley Parade for anything other than football. There area in no way whatsoever attracts anyone. Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd etc don't have this issue. They are an attraction in and of themselves and they now have the critical mass to attract no matter where they are. We simply don't so we need to wring everything out of what we have and it's not going to happen at VP...and finally....we don't own it and, other than saving on lease payments, there is no attraction to it as an asset.

    I believe that we should be looking at a mid to long term move to another location. Like every business where you are and what that brings to your business is important.

    I still like the idea of the shopping mall site just next to Midland Railway, flat, in town, close to transport links and other facilities. Why not....Luton have managed to do it.

    I get the history but it is time to let go of it.
     
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    Are you joking?

    Sport is viable, long term, in any small town.

    Why is Bradford, a city, completely different to everywhere else in the UK?
     
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    Just an opinion on the professional sport teams in Bradford in the next generation. Could be wrong, have been before.
     
  18. Bigrod

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    Oh just an addendum. I think there is more chance of City getting a brand new stadium than Bradford developing a comprehensive tram system! Manchester has used a number of former railway lines to build its system, a comparable option is no longer readily available in the Bradford area. Furthermore there is no plan to provide a rail link between Forster Square and the Interchange. So you are stuck with the current transport system for the long term.
     
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    Good for away fans but bad for home fans.
     
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    You say that you dont go anywhere near Valley Parade other than for football.
    Just out of interest, if we moved to Odsal, other than football, what would you be going to Odsal for?

    Valley Parade is a good location due to being so close to the city centre, theres a good selection of pubs on North Parade for those who enjoy a pre match pint.

    Not quite sure what you think the majority of fans want on matchday, to warrant a move to another area, be interesting to hear what you mean
     
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