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Tyrell Robinson

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Brackenrigg, Dec 1, 2018.

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  1. JonButterfield

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    Indeed.

    But there's a reason Cristiano Ronaldo wasn't suspended, and it isn't related to an implication of guilt, it was fear of reprisal.
     
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    I do, but won’t go into it on here for obvious reasons.

    Given the nature of the alleged charges I don’t think there’s any way he could have continued playing. And you can’t sack someone without due process.
     
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    There will always be a difference in treatment between a player worth 30 bob and one an international star worth nearly £100 million, Sad but true
     
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    I think what everyone needs to understand in this particular case is that civil legislation can and does supersede criminal investigations on occasions, and certainly operates in the vacuum during a sensitive investigation. The Police have no power to suspend anybody, that decision has been taken by the club, probably on the advice of their lawyers. I strongly suspect that safeguarding procedures and advice have taken precedence. Obviously they will be reviewed once the criminal investigation in conjunction with the CPS has been completed.

    All Safeguarding procedures are underpinned by a multi agency approach, with usually one agency taking the lead; in this instance itis probably the Police, whereby they will consult other agencies as required.

    My own view is without knowing any of the details of this case is that this Police investigation is taking a long time because they are probably crossing the i’s and t’s to make sure that the right decision is reached. Plus as ppl have already stated massive cuts within the Police force and public services are probably hindering their ability to speed up the process.
     
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    Also a difference between cases, one being historical and one being very close to home.
     
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    Once an individual is arrested any electronic device seized from them MUST to be examined by the investigating agency, in this case the police. There is no necessity for any agreement on the part of the arrested individual. This has to be done for both evidential and disclosure purposes. Disclosure is the process where a law enforcement agency must interrogate all material held to see if anything within that material either undermines the prosecution or assists the defence. This can't be done post charge as full disclosure now has to be provided to the CPS prior to them agreeing to provide a charging decision.

    The only way to access text messages, whatsapp messages etc. is from the device itself, or from any back up of those messages (e.g. on a computer), if material is held on a cloud, the majority of them fall outside the jurisdiction of UK law. Text messages are not kept by the service provider and applications such as Whatsapp use encryption. Of course various government agencies do intercept for example text messages, however these are not admissible in court and the evidence in them has to be parallel sourced, from the device etc.

    Telephone service providers can only provide limited information such as, Subscriber details, call listings (numbers dialled, call numbers received and duration), and cell siting which shows where a phone has connected to a telephone mast. If they kept details of text messages etc. that would constitute an unlawful interception.
     
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    A number of people have now explained why investigations and legal processes can take a long time.

    I think the discussion is starting to go around in circles and, until such time as any new information is made public, it is probably best that this thread is locked.
     
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