No that's not really my point. In simple terms, no one should be having sex before 16. That's the point of the law being defined with a firm line. That line has to be somewhere. 16 feels right, 14 doesn't. A 14 year old is still clearly a child in my eyes - and I think, in most people's eyes'. But there are mitigating circumstances as to the context. Would anyone want to see 2 15 year olds locked up for having sex? I don't think anyone would. Should a 20 year old be locked up for having sex with a 14 year old? Yes, its clearly wrong and clearly a breach of an important law, in my opinion. The question on whether he's a 'paedophile' or is an interesting one. How do you determine it? Is it specifically about consent? And if so, how do you define whether the individual is fit to consent? That's what I mean by grey area. And the age difference IS a factor precisely because one party is below the age of consent. I'm exaggerating to make a point, but take a situation where 2 people have sex, both consenting - 1 party turned 16 the day before, the other will turn 16 in 10 minutes time. Technically one is breaking the law, but its not morally 'wrong' as such, is it? Now take a situation whereby a 30 year old has sex with a 14 year old. Both consent. Its a very, very different circumstance. I'd have a different view if this was a circumstance whereby TR had no idea of the girls real age, or believed her to be above 16. But he knew full well, and still carried on.
And just to be clear, I'm not casting aspersions on Estonia - I've never been but I hear Talinn is lovely.
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How was my comment inappropriate ? It was a valid question?
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Back in court tomorrow,,,,
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Also there's a co-accused. Info on the T&A detailing charges.
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14 - jesus christ, as a grown man he should've known better. Just disgusting
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What a blxxdy idiot he had the talent to do well. Hope the girl suffers no permanent damage to her well being and he will be fully deserving of what is coming to him. Not only in the short term
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Look at Hudson Odoi at Chelsea. He gets arrested over a rape charge, and now it's dropped. There's no talk about the girl who made the false accusations getting arrested, the same way there's no talk about what a stressful time he must have had through all this made up case.
Robinson could probably have the pick of the girls in a nightclub. Who's to say he didn't pick this girl from a nightclub? If he did, I doubt the club would get fined for letting in underage girls - many of them do it on purpose to get the lads in. I don't think he's a groomer. I don't think he's a predator. I don't think he's a pedophile. I just think he got above his station with a girl who probably fancied him as a footballer, and as he's not very bright, he took advantage of the situation without thinking of the full consequences (think Adam Johnson). A stupid decision led by his dick and his ego, he will regret for the rest of his life. Sharing photos on Snapchat - now that is just a massive facepalm, and he deserves to get time for that, because it's disrespectful, arrogant and downright ignorant. I'm not defending him, I'm just trying to second guess what happened. He broke the law, and he's already paying for the mistake he made. Will he get time? Not sure. First offence, promising career and all that. The sharing though - that's what is going to get him in trouble.
I used to work for HM Customs and Excise in the Anti Smuggling Unit. Believe me, there's a massive difference to a footballer showing off and shagging a 14 year old, compared to a fifty year old bloke threatening to break a 4 years old arm if they don't comply. I've seen the videos and cannot unsee them, yet some "people" trade and enjoy these films.
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It was this part of the charge that implied he knew she was under age, or should have done.
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The age of sexual consent in Estonia is 14, plus a lot of other European countries too, So if this happened over here, he wouldn’t be a pedophile. Explain that. How can one be a “pervert” in one country, but not in another?
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