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This is Why You're Getting Sacked, MC

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. JonButterfield

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    "It wasn't a case of tactics"

    "I don't think it's good to be constantly changing systems, you have to find one that suits the players"

    "You have to find a system that suits and gives you options and gives you a threat, but also keeps you in the game defensively"

    "Regardless of if you play a back three or a back four, a midfield three or a midfield two, or two up top, you have to defend better than we did today and you have to get pressure on the ball"

    Jesus Christ, Michael, you do get that tactics and formations ARE vital, right? A back three or a back four will determine whether you have the right players in the right areas of the pitch to counteract your opponents. A back four or a back three makes ALL the difference, why do you keep dismissing tactics or formations?

    Not only that, but why are you also contradicting that silliness by saying changing systems constantly isn't good, when we haven't played two successive games with the same system (and in many cases, switched systems halfway through the game)?!

    That, and the reasoning for taking Payne off (we wanted to go direct, basically), just amounts to an absolute shambles.

    Sadly, and nothing against you, but you will get sacked because you literally don't have a plan in place, understand perfectly well that you do actually need one, and even recognise that chopping and changing (what you regard as irrelevant) formations is self-destructive.

    This interview with the Pulse literally outlines every reason required to let you go. You spell it out yourself, and you probably have a point in that "you have to work with what you've got" because the guy above you is a Grade A Ding-Dong who thinks he knows football, but you needed to have sorted a system by now.

    Goodbye, Michael, thanks for your efforts and I sincerely hope this is not the end of your coaching career because this kind of task was ludicrously allocated by a mong.
     
  2. How

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    The problem is I can’t see him going until late October.
     
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  3. bantam2708

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    I have this awful fear he will see out the season. Would edin be so quick to pay up 3yr deals for 3 people? I'm not so sure. But if he wants to stay in this division then he's no choice.
     
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  4. Storck

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    If the rumour that he is on about £30k pa then it wouldn't cost much to bin them all
     
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  5. JonButterfield

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    It doesn't matter how many times I read it, or how factually correct it actually is, there's no way Rahic was stupid enough to give them all three year contracts UNLESS the potential pay out was the reward for taking the bloody job in the first place!
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    £30k?!

    Wonder how it didn't work out...
     
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  7. Faithful Bantam

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    He doesn’t need sacking, he just needs sending back to coach the under 18s.

    A couple more defeats, which will come, and it’ll be unavaoidable.

    Having our Arse handed to us at home by charlton, and the crowd response that comes with it, will be the final straw. Amidst talk of protests, we should find a way of inviting Rupp to that home game, under the pretext that it’ll show him all he needs to know about how his investment is being managed.
     
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  8. vladimir

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    Agreed by then we will be well and truly in the brown stuff.
     
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  9. Petrov

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    It really pains me to say this but I hope the defeats keep coming over the next 2 or 3 games. A win or even a draw inbetween loses is only going to delay the inevitable because Edin will just give Collins more time. The sooner he goes, the more chance whoever takes over has of turning things around. Obviously that also depends on the quality of the person that comes in and whether Edin will allow them to get on with their job without interference (big ask I know), but at least it would give us a chance and at the moment, that's all I can cling on to.
     
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  10. Smartmart

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    That’s a strong point. Even if Rahic has a break clause in Collins contract and surely there must be Edin is aware that canning a bloke 6 games in to what was trumpeted as a 3 year contract says Edin made a huge mistake and the media would really pick up on this point. Football shows saying Bradford sack their coach 6 games into a season who has a 3 year contract etc. This kind of negative national media Edin would want to avoid but it’s inevitable as Collins hasn’t a clue or the players don’t know what they are doing. Or our recruitment was poor. Or all 3!
    The facts are city haven’t looked like a football team worthy of the shirt in pre season or the league games so far. We’ve now had 13 games under Collins in total and are no nearer solving these issues. I can’t see how Collins would have got a league job with his experience anywhere else yet still he is the puppet. The biggest issue is Stefan Rupps inability to see what damage Edin is doing. Stefans investment is shrinking along with ST sales merchandise returns ( since when did we play in the German colours) stripes please, and less punters in the door eat and drink less.
    It’s wrong on every level.
    We’re another club in the wrong hands.
    Charlton Blackpool formerly L**ds etc.
    The only way is down.
    Stefan Rupp is responsible.
     
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  11. BD21958

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    Someone like Mick McCarthy but ER would not want a strong character anywhere near him nor would he pay anywhere near his sort of salary. Word gets about and i`m afraid it`s a case of "don`t go to Bradford City" with these two at the helm.
     
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  12. Inspector

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    Is Paul Heckingbottom still on a break?

    I hope he’s recharged his batteries and is waiting in the wings. Maybe (fanciful I know), he agreed to take over but not right now, so Rahic has Collins in temporary charge until he’s ready.
     
  13. Hulmebantam

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    The sad thing for MC is that he is clearly so far away from having the capability to do n this job.

    When the three stooges were appointed, along with most fans I was sceptical to put it mildly. However, after a bit I thought, maybe just maybe, Edin has seen a quality in MC that shows he is ready. Not withstanding the rarity of u18 coaches being promoted to manage a professional football team.

    Sadly, that hope appears to be very wide of the mark. MC looks to be overwhelmed by the role, and the quotes above demonstrate this. I just find it hard to understand how a professional footballet with quite a few years of experience, albeit lower league can be so dismissive of the importance of tactics.

    Right now, I believe well organised conference level teams would beat us more often than not. It must be a nightmare playing under him at the moment. I know we say about professional footballers etc etc, but if they step into the pitch not confident about their roles, the tactics and perhaps their team mates and what is happening around them, no wonder we are in a mess.

    Unless we get a proper manager, and ER steps back, I think we will go down this season. We are a disorganised rabble.
     
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  14. City loyal

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    Edin needs to get over canning a bloke after 6 games in and measure that against canning a bloke 15 games in and we are adrift at the bottom of the league.

    You have to question the man’s sanity if he lets this continue, we’ve had 3 months to work on a style of play and come up with absolutely no identity whatsoever.

    The best chance to save this season is to act now
     
  15. Tony Wilkinson

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    My worry is that with no senior professionals left in the squad (i.e a Kilgallon type) how would we be able to boot these 3 out without first having a replacement ready to go..?
     
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  16. City loyal

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    If I was Edin I’d contact someone like Ian Holloway immediately and offer him a job for the rest of the season. Yeah it might not be for Holloway but who knows, short term deal to suit all parties with the aim to keep us up.

    It might cost a few quid but the loss of revenue falling into league 2 would be more
     
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    3 years is a long time to recharge his battery!
     
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  18. Inspector

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    Listen from around 2.48 where he explains why he took Payne off saying, it probably wasn’t one of those games where 2nd half we weren’t going to “dominate the ball and pass our way through”.
    Surely against 10 we should be dominating the ball. The problem was, we didn’t know what to do with the extra man.
     
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    I don’t think the termination of the contracts, will come close to the loss of revenue should we go down.
     
  20. Petrov

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    This is so sad. 6 games into the season and we are talking about getting someone in who's only remit is to keep us up. Things are dire right now but let's keep a bit of perspective here. There are still 40 games left and 120 points to play for. If we get a decent manager in within the next couple of weeks say, shouldn't our expectations be a little higher than just avoiding relegation?
     

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