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  1. Foghornleghorn

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    Just another frustrating interview from a player on his way out.
    Perhaps Mr Smallwood would like to tell us how he intends to beat the first man from a corner that his something he could put right and leave the pitch condition to those who make a living in that profession.
     
  2. Tennesseebantam

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    To be fair WW and BCB. kadima might already have irons in the fire for a mini-tour of Europe or the States, just to save our field.
     
  3. SteveC

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    "What will be, will be...."

    What an arrogant bastard he really is
     
  4. Birky Bantam

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    We only put very minimal covers on for rain as it has very little benefit, also when the rain hits the covers where is it going to go? There's only so much you can do about frost without spending huge money on undersoil heating. The frost covers go down to around -4 and when we had the Doncaster game postponed the temperature at pitch level was -7/8. You can have the best frost covers in the world but if you have an evening game when the temperature drops below freezing like it did for the Liverpool game then there's nothing you can do about it. It seems that the Liverpool and Stockport games did the irreversible damage to the pitch which was made worse by the the issues in the summer with the delayed pitch work and broken sprinkler. As long as there are no issues with this like there wasn't for the last few summers there's no reason our pitch can't look like it did at the end of the last few season where it looked perfectly fine. This is the pitch for the last home game in the last 3 seasons. Currently this is a 1 off season since the major pitch work taken out, if, this time next year the pitch is looking like it is now then it's a different story.
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  5. Onside

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    Thank you, however @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler beat you to it with a fuller explanation! The bane of my life is shortened titles and in this case hides its stature in world by doing so. I wonder how many of the 13,000 + fans who received the email be in similar ignorance? It is practice in well written grammar to insert the full title then the shortened version in brackets, then you can use the shortened version later in the email, letter or report, and everybody is then fully informed.
     
  6. Stafford Bantam

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    Probably because one of the options they considered was delaying the kick off.
     
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  7. Zonnebloem

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    Asking players not to plough 2 trenches with knee slides, in the unlikely event of scoring a goal, could help
    Or at least not make things worse.
     
  8. Bigrod

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    Not sure about the cost. But if Spennymoor FC can afford to:
    • Purchase
    • Maintain and run with the costs.
    Then surely Bradford City could match them?

    The Solution
    Eight Matchsaver Air Roller Pitch Covers were delivered pre-assembled and ready to be deployed at Brewery Field. When needed the eight covers are inflated and deployed side-line to side-line by the ground-staff with sandbags used to keep the covers in place.

    Waterproof plus Germination
    Waterproof, rot proof, tough and long-lasting, the pitch cover material provides a light transmission rate of 70% providing excellent germination properties for natural turf.

    Storage
    After use, the ground-staff deflate the air roller covers and keep them next to the pitch in readiness for the next time they are needed.


    It has been a well known fact that the Brewery Field Pitch has been an issue with water logging and frost for a few seasons and with the level of football being played by the club it was imperative that action was taken to ensure as many games as possible be played and not postponed.
    Matchsaver covers enabled us to meet that demand through immediate delivery and ease of deployment to the playing surface aligned with great after sales support.


    It strikes me, that something like this system is worth inquiring about.
     
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  9. Bigrod

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    If the underlying issues were resolved in 2018, and the actual turf looked decent until the end of last year, then the main issue has to be stopping short term extreme weather conditions impacting on the pitch and then exacerbating the wear and tear features.

    From my perspective that is stopping too much water soaking into the pitch. Modern, effective covers, which are inflated and provide a simple dome would protect the pitch from flooding. It is a lot cheaper to provide soakways, gulleys on the edge of the pitch which connect to main drains. Like the sprinkler systems they could be covered over just before the match started.

    With frosts forecast, then again the covers could be inflated and some warm air circulated. Yes there will be cost, but the cost of late cancellation of matches must run to the tens of thousands.

    Expect to see a drop of say 2,000 plus from City POTD and Notts County fans seeking a refund. That in simple terms will be a loss of £40,000+ to the club. There will be other costs with a late cancellation, l am sure that the stewards, catering staff, food, loss pro rata in other sales on a match day will mean City will have lost out on a sizeable income.

    l posted earlier a ground cover system once again, here is a testimony of the system working.
    This is one of many occasions that the ‘Moors’ have used the air roller covers to make sure matches were played on time, fixtures that otherwise would need to be re-scheduled with all the costs and potential loss of revenue that entails.

    Spennymoor Town FC play in the Vanarama Conference League North, the sixth tier of English football.

    Located in the hills of County Durham the town gets more than its fair share of snow, ice, and plenty of rain during winter. The football club had struggled for years with many matches postponed at their home ground of Brewery Field because of waterlogged and frozen pitches. Determined to act and alleviate the problem the club purchased set of waterproof Matchsaver Air Roller Covers in December 2018.

    If Spennymoor can afford to purchase and run the system, then surely City can? Sometimes the mantra of cost, is touted too loudly! The old saying of ‘Penny wise, pound foolish’, comes to mind.
     
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  10. Captain Grumpy

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    That’s got to be City v Wimbledon at Odsal Dave. Match eventually abandoned.
     
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  11. Kopendin1964

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    Yep. I was there - wasn’t it a night game? Horrible weather where the water came across from the racetrack touchline towards the centre of the pitch.
     
  12. Kevin1954

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    Ah yes another crook feathering his own nest, and yet it’s legal. Newark is about as deprived as St John’s Wood .
     
  13. Onside

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    The other half said exactly the same. However, he also said that the groundsman had to get games on and with no grass they had to roll it hard to provide a playing surface. Nevertheless the damage done to the pitch with frost and torrential rain is the real culprit. Not sure there is anything they can do until we can start the summer work.
     
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  14. Park bantam

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    As I said in a previous post we spent a lot of money a few years ago on the pitch and it was perfect for a couple of seasons. Surely there should be a comeback on the company who did the work after its complete collapse
     
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  15. trevor

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    Maybe like most things at the club the pitch is looked after on the cheap. If we have not followed the company's maintenance programme they will not be liable for its unplayable state
     
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    When you get Premier league money and 100 million for getting relegated you can easily afford things like that.
     
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  17. Idlebantam

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    Richie Smallwood has come out and blasted the pitch as being the worst in the EFL and its not good enough having to play on it every week.

    Well done Richie for not holding back. Its time someone came out and said it.

    It's not good enough for Sunday league football.

    Does Rupp care?, probably not
     
  18. Onside

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    I have just read the Smallwood interview and to be fair to him he said it was a small part of playing football. He said the ball didn’t bounce. However, what did alarm me was the psychological impact it appears to have on the players ie planning. Getting ready for the match as they set off from home. Not knowing whether they would be playing or not! We are the same a lot of fans just gave up on attending as they didn’t know whether to go to the expense of travelling and investing in the emotion of wanting the team to win, and all the other stuff that goes through your head before a match. You only have to look at the pitch to be worried about it playing up. No matter how much we try to excuse it away, we can’t, the grounds staff have done an incredible job, but they are not miracle workers. They are providing the best playing surface they can given the cards they have been dealt. However, I did notice the pitch did look greener, so the grass has started to grow.

    We just have to find a solution to our pitch problems, that can only be done by experts, we cannot stop the rain, but we can mitigate against it damaging the pitch. Starting with a full investigation into the problems that have occurred and suggestions on how to solve the problem. No half measures. Plus you could make any investigation report available to fans, now wouldn’t that be novel?
     
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    Genuinely, I think what Smallwood has said is just one part of the psychological make-up of the players when playing at home. When we're playing a big team/higher division (Wrexham/Wycombe/Stockport) they just focus on getting up for that challenge and tend to perform alright. When it's a little/poor team (FGR/Donny etc.) they assume they are going to win, mentally slack-off, and then things like the pitch etc. creep into their thoughts.

    If GA really wants to fix the issue of playing at home I suggest he hires a sports psychologist to work with the players as clearly something in the players' mentality isn't right.
     
  20. Onside

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    I agree it has been going on for years. So what exactly is the problem? If it affects different players and different teams, what the he’ll is it? I also agree we need a sports psychologist and fast!

    Allowing teams without our resources come to VP and waltz off with 3 points is a something we have been doing for years. Why is that?
     
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