So you don't agree it was also the strides UKIP had made in the General Election, it was only due to the Conservative party having more Eurosceptics within their party.
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Equally, I do not believe remaining in the EU will ruin this country; neither do I believe it will solve our problems.
But spending the last 3 years, plus the next 6 months, or more, arguing about Brexit has and is helping to bring this country down. We need to move on.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand... -
The best we’ve got now is, it’ll be ok, we’ve wasted nigh on 3 years and a load of money. But at least Tony Bliar and David Camoron are a bit f***ed off. -
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Glad the Eurosceptics brought the situation to ahead or the electorate would have never been give the choice, I disagree UKIP had little influence, maybe David though he could slay both Goliath's with a Referendum. -
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Your point about the euro is classic brexiteer nonesense. You simply assume we will lose the pound with no firm evidence or any suggestion by the UK govt that this will ever happen. You are just making things up and scaremongering.
So once again show us all the proof of these two parts of your argument.
1. The UK loses its veto on the EU army
2. The UK loses its opt out of the euro
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on this point https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/27/all-new-uk-cars-to-have-speed-limiters-by-2022-under-eu-plans what is it about common law that you dont want to respect?
Why is it that you are angry about potentially not being able to break the law and speed? if 70mph is an issue for you isnt that the UK govt? because in germany theirs will be limited to over 100mph.
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You are a clot, At no point have I said I am angry or disagree with speed limiters only that the EU are proposing them, Lying is a serious word to use but I forgive you as are obviously young and a maybe a little slow upstairs and throw insults round instead of debate, May I remind you that these are things that MAY happen or may not, What IS certain is that you cannot say with any certainty that they and other things will not happen, Your comment that we know the future of the EU is obviously wrong and flawed and anyone with an ounce of intelligence would know that.
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I am more qualified than you on this and i can beat you in an argument. So much for age and experience. -
For me the EU elections would give her an even stronger hand to play the EU negotiators (now she has taken no deal off the table), back off/reword the back stop or we will hold the EU Election and with the brexit party MEPs and the right wing parties MEPs from the likes of France, Italy, Germany, Greece they will have a field day. -
So if nodeal means no US trade and a customs union means no brexit. Then in my view we should retain our membership in order to have a say.
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Don't you find it a little ironic that the EU negotiators said if the UK left with no deal they would not force a hard border in Ireland, yet it's one of the conditions the UK government have to get around with regards the back stop, talk about do as we say not do as we do. -
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