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Most liked posts in thread: Stuart McCall's managerial legacy

  1. king karl

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    His middle stint was more than acceptable

    Was it nearly 2 years undefeated at home and decent attacking football
    Should never have been sacked that year
     
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  2. bantamlad92

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    He’s obviously put his heart into it for a club we all care about and tried his best. Not many of us would walk either as we care so deeply for BCFC.

    To carry on slagging him after his sacking is uncalled for. Let’s move on
     
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    Definitely different this time to his previous poor runs.Being asked the tough questions rather than the constant ref blaming love ins with Thornton and Ormondroyd meant no place to hide.Saturdays grilling and loss of cool would never have happened on the Pulse.
     
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    An unbeaten season at home was a solid achievement in League One. Won’t be many/any who could have achieved that.

    Credit must be given for his play off final season, we were 34 mins plus penalties away from promotion to the Championship, something we haven’t achieved since 1996. He bettered Parkinson’s effort the season before.

    His League 2 efforts have been woeful though. Bizarre really, compared to how well he did in L1.
     
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  5. Onside87

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    Could it not have gone in the McCall gone thread. He hasn’t been a player here for 20 years. Many of our younger fans won’t have a clue or care about the player McCall.
    He’s been a terrible manager. Should never have got the job. Do we really care about his win percentage? Let’s look forward, stop talking about Parkinson, banging on about the league cup run and McCall the player and look forward to trying to get of this hole we’re in.
     
  6. River_City_Bantam

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    Hmmm...Has a recently-banned poster, named after a former player, reappeared?

    I know this idea about the playoff side being Parkinson's team has been addressed here before, but I can't find the post I'm thinking of. That idea is simply not true. That side was a nice combination of Parkinsonian carry-overs complemented by players brought in under McCall, either by him alone or with the input of others. A few "homegrown" players also made it into league matches. Simplifying things and just considering under which manager a (non-homegrown) player came to the club:

    Those who made 15+ league appearances:

    McCall: Law, Knight-Percival, Doyle, Dieng, Vincelot, Jones, Wyke, Hiwula, McNulty, and James Hanson
    Parkinson: Billy Clarke, Cullen, Darby, Marshall, McArdle, McMahon, Meredith, Morais

    Cullen I suppose could go into both lists.

    Those with under 15 appearances:

    McCall: Kilgallon, Sattelmaier, Rabiega, Pybus, Vukcic, Gilliead, Penney, Toner
    Parkinson: Anderson
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    As for the "last couple of seasons", McCall was in post for less than a year, and season, and had exactly one transfer window to work with. And despite previous comments, it seems clear that he knows as well as any of us that the recruitment was not adequate. It also seems reasonable to suggest that there were outside factors influencing that recruitment, and not in a good way. It does seems that he did not have as free a hand as he would have wished.

    RCB
     
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  7. King Cole

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    The legacy from his last spell was that listening to his, bad tempered, post match interviews was more entertaining than watching his team play.
     
  8. NorthernMonkey

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    His magnificent ginger mane. Definitely a positive.
     
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    See @king karl@king karl, its at times like these we need the poop emoji.

    #honourthevote
     
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    So the manager who left the club in June 2016 should be given credit for getting us to Wembley in May 2017, no credit whats ever for McCall also recording no home defeats that season, this post belongs in the joke thread Mclowne, have you a relative called Norman Corner by any chance.
     
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  11. River_City_Bantam

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    Just what I was thinking when I read the post...especially as I don't think McCall was originally spelt as McCall!

    Going undefeated at home, and the overall excellent defensive record of that season, are certainly things to remember and yes, give Stuart a lot of credit for.

    Overall this is another case of a star player not reaching the same heights as manager. From another sport, a clear parallel is Wayne Gretzky -- in the running as greatest player ever, but only middling, adequate, as coach. I suppose, as has been mentioned here recently, Alan Dowson would be an example in the other direction -- more successful as a manager than player.

    RCB
     
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  12. NorthernMonkey

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    No, as in the ratings C&B used to have.

    But I think you knew that :unsure:
     
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  13. Aaron Baker

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    I don't think it was 2 years, I think it was just one season wasn't it? But yes, that one year was good if eventually unproductive.

    As for the point that he shouldn't have been sacked......I thought it was harsh at the time but looking back at it these were his final results.

    Wimbledon 2 - 1 Bradford - LOSS (21st)
    Bradford 1 - 3 Peterborough - LOSS (6th)
    Bradford 3 - 2 Oxford - WIN (12th)
    Fleetwood 1 - 2 Bradford - WIN (12th)
    Yeovil 2 - 0 Bradford (FA cup) - LOSE (bottom - league 2)
    Bradford 1 - 2 Northampton - LOSE (21st)
    Bristol R 3 - 1 Bradford - LOSE (17th)
    Rotherham 2 - 0 Bradford - LOSE (7th)
    Bradford 0 - 4 Wimbledon - LOSE (20th)
    Oldham 2 - 1 Bradford - LOSE (22nd)


    Not many managers can get through a run of 8 losses in 10 games when you're supposedly chasing promotion. Especially when 5 of those teams are fighting relegation and another one is towards the bottom of the league below!

    it was silly of him to agree that he needed to get 7 points from his final 3 gamss (or whatever it was) but if that run of form was put together by any manager not called McCall I doubt there would be complaints in the same situation.
     
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  14. Onside87

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    Pointless thread which proves our inability to move on.
    How many McCall threads are needed. I’m not sure Jose Mourinho would be talked about as much at Chelsea and he won them 3 tittles. We need to get over it and quickly.
     
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    Just hope Width of a post don’t campaign to bring him back when the next guy gets sacked.
     
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    He's gone. Can we stop trying to trash his record, let sleeping dogs lie and let his legend rebuild itself with time in the same way that Ryan McGowan became Bobby Moore because he didn't play.

    Let's just move on and hope that the new bod can build himself a new epoch.
     
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  17. Aaron Baker

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    By "trash his record" do you really mean "talk about his record"? I don't think there's anything unfair in the synopsis?

    I'm happy to move on over time but I really didn't think it was that weird to look back on what a manager has or hasn't achieved in the days following their departure.
     
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    No, I mean trash, as in pull out all the bad points and elaborate on them. Let's just leave him alone now to rebuild his standing at BCFC,
     
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  19. Ulysses S Grant

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    To be fair it was more of a general comment rather than specifically in response to yours
     
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  20. Bronco

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    Yet there was nothing between the two teams in both league encounters the games finishing 1 - 1 we finished above Millwall so as the format was we drew Fleetwood over the two legged semi final, not sure you can rewrite history on an assumption.
    But that's what the forum is all about opinions.
     
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