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Stefan Rupp

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Jan 30, 2022.

  1. JonButterfield

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    I don't think it's fair to have the Adams Out thread without a proper counterpart - namely, "Rupp Out".

    Some believe changing managers - AGAIN - is the key because Adams is the wrong character, has the wrong attitude, has made the wrong signings, plays the wrong players, uses the wrong tactics, etc, etc, etc.

    This argument is perfectly legitimate because Adams is the manager of this football club and therefore responsible for our on-the-field performance. At the minute, we're top half, 6 points off the play offs, but realistically we're not going to Wembley, we're not making the semis, we don't even look like embarking on a good run of form, and I think we all agree that's not good enough.

    But look at the club he has joined.

    Stefan Rupp is chairman. What's his track record?

    He let the most successful manager of this century leave (Phil Parkinson). That was a disaster, but that is what it is, I'm not sure he could have done anything about that anyway. But look at these stats:

    CEO/Co-Chairman Appointments: 3 (Rahic, Rhodes, Sparks).
    Number of Successful CEO/Co-Chairman Appointments: 0 (ZERO).

    Managerial Appointments: 10 (Stuart, Abbott, Grayson, Collins, Hopkin, Drury, Bowyer, Stuart (second), Trueman & Sellars, Adams)
    Number of Successful Appointments: 0.
    Number of Promotions: 0.
    Number of Relegations: 1.

    Known M.O.: Work within a budget.
    Known stylistic preferences: 0.
    Known successful initiatives: 0.
    Known input into the running of the club on a day-to-day basis: 0.
    Known successful appointments of any kind, any nature, that brought us a wholly positive outcome: 0.

    There's nothing wrong with trying to work within a budget, I absolutely think we should be doing that. But if you're going to do that, you need to give yourself every possible advantage. What advantages does Stefan give us?

    None.

    Does Stefan scour the planet for the best staff members? No.
    Does Stefan provide us with some kind of off-field advantage, whatever that might be, be it data mining, analytics, financial wallop, or serious clout as a football club to attract the best players and managers? No.
    Does Stefan radiate an aura of success and instil confidence? No.

    What does Stefan do? Absolutely nothing. What does he bring to the table? A degree of financial security. Is that good enough? Hell no!

    Every SINGLE MOVE Stefan Rupp has made has been a failure, and the reason for that is obvious. He makes easy appointments, he doesn't scour the planet for the best staff, he doesn't hire anyone that isn't recommended to him by the inadequate staff that are running the club.

    I'm afraid Stefan Rupp's lazy, disinterested, uninspiring, unsuccessful performance is the unavoidable glue that holds all the seasons under his tenure together. HE is the failure that appointed Rahic. HE is the failure that appointed Rhodes. HE is the failure that appointed Sparks. HE is the failure that appointed Stuart twice. HE is the failure that appointed Trueman & Sellars. HE is the failure that appointed Adams. HE is the failure that Bowyer. HE is the failure that appointed Collins. HE is the failure that appointed Hopkin. HE is the failure that appointed Drury.

    HE is the failure again and again and again and again, but that's actually okay.

    What's not okay is that HE is the failure who doesn't have the expertise, interest, or ability to put in place a plan that will turn us round. His only answers are: "But Edin said," "But Julian said", and "But Ryan said".

    Not good enough. Stefan has proven he cannot bring success to this club and hasn't even come close since he inherited the successes of his predecessors. He isn't going to suddenly start understanding where he's going wrong. On that basis, we have no choice as a club.

    Stefan Rupp MUST go.
     
  2. WilsdenBantam

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    I’d like to say you’re preaching to the converted with everyone on here Job, sadly that’s not the case. They’re like a broken record it’s all Adams’ fault, just as the same were with the 8 or 9 managers previously. Looks like we’ll have to become a broken record about Rupp, because some people obviously need to read it if they don’t hold him responsible. A Coventry, Charlton, Blackpool or Newcastle would have started the protests 2 seasons ago maybe 3, we just chant the managers name out then onto the next mug every 6 months or is it less…
     
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  3. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    You could argue Stuart's second spell in charge, getting us to a play-off final, was a success.
     
  4. WilsdenBantam

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    I don’t think it was a success, but Stuart using the foundations Parky built gave it a good go and we had something even better to build on for the following season. The reason it’s not a success isn’t due to Stuart, but it’s hard to call it a success when you stay in the same league then next season drop into mid table followed by relegation the season after and continuing decline ever since. As soon as the owners got a proper chance to stamp their authority on the business we’ve failed every season, with every manager.
     
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  5. JonButterfield

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    It's tedious.

    Replacing Adams will achieve absolutely nothing with Rupp as chairman.
     
  6. bantamdave41

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    Rupp stays, I firmly believe we stay in this division. As you say, 10 managers have failed irrespective of budget. One common theme.

    Rupp out
     
  7. Fairbantam

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    Agree with this but at the end of the day who in their right mind would pump £10M to but the club plus another £5M to buy the ground?

    That’s before any team strengthening and money on good staff.
     
  8. donhutchinsaffro

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    I would love to do a fly on the wall documentary. Like Man City or Macclesfield. I bet we are a total basket case. The treatment room must be like the Mecca in the eighties…. Rupp on a conference call ordering sinks and cisterns for sparky. God we are so soft. When the going gets tough. Any cross creates mayhem. I actually have a bit of sympathy for our keepers. Our defenders cannot attack or mark a ball coming in.
     
  9. borderlescott

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    I agree that was a success but I think Mason (or another key figure in the club) probably told them to appoint Stuart to appease fans after Parky went. Rahic and Rupp had just arrived and wouldn’t have even known who he was - hence the lack of respect and support Rahic showed him subsequently. So Rupp can take no credit for that season.
     
  10. Park bantam

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    Down to the players Parky left behind
     
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  11. Claret Fish

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    Just to make a point on the main thing you seem to have incorrect, Rupp did not appoint Rahic, they were introduced to each other by a bank manager. Rahic’s plan was to buy a football club but he clearly didn’t have the funds to do so Rupp came in as what at the time was meant to be a silent investor and Rahic was going to be solely responsible for the club using a large portion of someone else’s money ie Rupp’s. As such hard to blame Rupp for all the madness Rahic brought to the table, Rupp at no point had any interest in running a football club (which is of course less than ideal for us) however once brought to his attention he did start the process to get rid of Rahic (had this not happened we wouldn’t even exist anymore). As I have said he isn’t the owner most would choose (me included) but I can’t imagine he is happy with the situation he has been left in when as I say he never wanted to be running a football club. I think from what I have heard from people his asking price for the club is ridiculous (again not an ideal scenario as removes potential buyers before it even starts one of which I have spoken to and they just laughed at the price they were quoted and moved on). Could Rupp put a bit more money into the team to go for promotion properly? Probably. Is that likely to happen? Unlikely Rupp probably does want out but doesn’t want to make a loss. I think tarring Rupp with anything that happened during Rahic’s time is not the thing to do under solely Rupp the infrastructure of the club is improving unfortunately the football is not and isn’t going to while we have Dreary Adams in charge. Regardless of who owns the club I go on a Saturday to watch the match and be entertained that has not happened this season most of the crowd are bored watching the game and spend half the match just having a chat with the people they have gone to the game with. We will never go forward if the season tickets etc dwindle because no one wants to watch Adams shite football. Whilst I don’t disagree with you that a new owner would probably be a good thing Mr Adams is also not doing his job with the tools at his disposal.
     
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  12. AngryGaz

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    Rupp ain’t going nowhere and nobody is gonna buy us .............. what’s going on with that team ain’t down to him ................ that team should be a lot higher up the league would folk be calling for his head if we sat in the top 3 ????
    I assume Adams has a decent budget to compete with the top 7 ????? so why ain’t we doing that ???? Is Rupp running into the dressing room and telling us to sit on one goal leads yet again ???
    the only thing he’s doing wrong is keeping that negative arrogant sod at the club ..........
     
  13. GarageBantam

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    So how on earth is Rupp to blame for a team quite capable of playing in the first half and not turning up in the second- almost every game. That has nothing to do with investment. And not that i am wanting the manager to go as i am not but i have lost all respect for him after his interview. Its as if he isnt even watching the same game sometimes. It was all well summed up on the radio after the game then Adams was interviewed and spoke absolute nonsense giving me no confidence he knows what to to
     
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  14. zico

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    If you were pumping 6 million into an investment and letting someone you just met run it, would you just sit back and assume all was hunky dorey?

    Or would you put in place some controls to ensure you could see the state of affairs?

    The fact it got so bad and he had to be told is laughable. Negligent, perhaps.
     
  15. zico

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    Somebody just tried to buy us.

    And what if this time last year, we knew our strategy was experienced manager and experienced players.

    We wouldn't have wasted 6 months with inexperienced managers, a recruitment team and blooding the kids, signing crankshaw etc etc

    Adams could have had the last part of last season assessing things and being ready for the summer rebuild.
     
  16. Claret Fish

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    I have never had £6m to put into something haha.
    I deal with people a lot who put money into an investment with no interest in it I suppose the amount of money is just relative, can Rupp afford to just lose £6m I don’t know the answer to that…..
    I am not saying he gets everything right and is a great owner, I am saying the shite that is served up on a Saturday (unless he has a zoom call in the dressing room at half time from Germany) is not on him, and the players we have are not as shite as Adams is making them.
     
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    He’s had a full pre season he had his number 2 there for near on 5 months seeing what was going on so I ain’t having that ............ and he who bought Lavery and Robinson ????? Was that Rupp .............. that team out there or the squad full stop is good enough if they are used in the correct manner but sadly they aren’t is that down to Rupp ???
    As for somebody buying us out do you know if it was serious or not ????? Surly if they had the funds etc they would have made a big song and dance about it especially after Rupp challenged them publicly but they just slid away not to be heard of
     
  18. AngryGaz

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    Spot how folk can blame Rupp for what’s gone on over the last 3 games is laughable............ sod folk talking about bigger pictures etc that was down to the manager and his poor tactics :(
     
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    Banners and protests will not make a difference.

    the only way we can get Rupp out is to stop buying season tickets.

    the whole business model collapses if big numbers stop turning up but once they have your money they’ve got you for another year.

    rupp is happy plugging along while the club funds itself but if half the fanbase boycott then he risks having to inject his own money to bail us out.

    when the next ST campaign is launched, boycott.

    If the club are any good at reading the room they won’t be launching it soon, though. So many are broken by this shocking promotion attempt.
     
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  20. zico

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    Serious enough that Sparks said on the hard truth podcast he was considering the impact of losing his job, and he'd had to discuss a takeover with key members of his team.

    I'm not backing Adams here. But he wasn't here until after the play offs. Him, or AN Other could have been in place this time last year and had a period to get everything in place for this season and beyond.

    Instead we flip flop, change strategy again. And new manager has to hit the ground running. And that sits with being rudderless at the top.
     

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