To put it as simply as I can ... they have no motivation to run the club down! But then despite what you keep saying, nobody is suggesting that what has happened was by deliberate intent.
The two of them have invested millions of their own money in buying the club. If they had wanted to get rid of their own money in a reckless way, I can think of lots of other ways other than buying a football club in another country. But the reality, our club probably dropped in value under their ownership. And the two of them have to take responsibility for that. Without going over all of the old ground, some posters on C&B identified last summer's recruitment as insufficient with not enough quality nor numbers and experience in the event of lack of form, injuries, illnesses etc. For one, I don't blame Rahic for that; I don't blame Abbott and I don't blame McCall. I blame all three of them for putting the club in that position and not thinking through the consequences of that approach. We were overly reliant on developing young players which was always a gamble. It might be a successful approach in years to come but when the plan (not an aspiration, not a vision, not a hope but a plan!) was to get promoted to the Championship, it was an enormous gamble which doesn't look like paying off. That strategy was and is the owners.
I believe that the owners have seriously underestimated the effort required to get into the Championship and I don't believe they understand how different is lower league football ownership in England compared to Germany. In Germany, it's all very business like and their 50+1 ownership scheme prevents clubs being owned exclusively by a small number of shareholders. I don't believe they understand how successful clubs at out level are dependent either on the left over remnants of parachute payments for some clubs or how some owners subsidise their hobbies to a significant degree. I don't believe our owners will do this unless it's a conscious decision on their part to somehow protect their current investment. But that's risky and it's just not the German way.
But unfortunately their lack of understanding of English lower league football will cost the club dearly and hit them hard in their pockets. There is little we as fans can do in a practical sense but some have clearly voted with their feet. And I don't blame them whatsoever. As I wrote on C&B, I came close to joining them and it was only the need to hang onto our current seats which led to our renewal. Most of our group expect something to happen to improve things and didn't want to give up our seats willingly in case things did change for the better. I don't know what that might be but #IbelievesomethingwillhappenwhichMasoncan'tpredict!
So Park, I don't believe that the owners are deliberately running the club down. But their collective actions along with those responsible for recruitment and the make-up of the squad have all contributed to where we are now. And it will take some enormous effort on their part to pull us out of this.
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They say one thing and do another, http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/14511886.Parkinson_position_should_be_top_of_agenda_for_Bradford_City__39_s_new_overlords/ ,here are a few comments from the article :
Rahic is due to sit down with Phil Parkinson this afternoon. It will be the first time the manager has met either of his two new bosses face-to-face.
Parkinson has already made his stance for the summer crystal clear. In the immediate aftermath of Friday's play-off disappointment at Millwall, he spoke of the need to strengthen specific areas to engineer his team's jump from top six to top two next season,
that went well, ring any bells a similar situation during the current closed season when Stuart wanted to add a bit more quality to the squad but Edin knew better ?.
New men in charge traditionally like to have their "own" man at the helm.
It seems ridiculous to be even discussing the future prospects of the manager who has dragged City back from the doldrums and made them a proud club once more.
It did to most but obviously not Edin.
Parkinson is thought to be open-minded on developments for now. Until he hears exactly what the new owners have in store, he remains relaxed about the unfolding situation.
He was until he heard Edin's intentions.
He will want to know the necessary investment will be put at his disposal to improve the team enough for a genuine challenge at automatic promotion.
Another situation that Stuart had to work under not knowing the player transfer budget, openly stated by Edin at the fans forum.
Here a classic : http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/14513502.Rahic_and_Rupp_officially_unveiled_as_new_owners_at_Bradford_City/
One of the very first statements they made “We do not have plans to make big changes but to work with the existing structure. We have seen the way the club and fans interact and the model of affordable football is very important to us".
That went well, the first time they sat down and talked about the way they wanted the club running Parkinson said that's not my way good bye.
Another article here : http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/14524069.New_Bantams_boss_wants___39_hands_on__39__approach_with_Parkinson_deals/
This has to be the most audacious comment Edin ever made with regards our club and his intentions :
NEW City joint-owner Edin Rahic believes he can box clever with Phil Parkinson as his “sparring partner”.
You really have to be an egocentric to make that sort of comment to a guy who has possibly forgotten more than Edin knows about football.
There are loads more I could post, one of the first being, we aren't here to change things why would we ?.
Rahic has held his first couple of meetings with the Bantams boss following the German takeover last week, discussing the potential budget and plans for the squad for next season.
Being based full-time at Valley Parade, he intends to be more “hands on” in his approach while business partner Stefan Rupp will fly in frequently from Germany.
And Rahic hopes his close interest and background in the game will give Parkinson someone to bounce his ideas off.
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This has nothing to do with ‘love child’ or Parkinson bashing. It is a fact that McCall was working under extreme conditions and ultimately failed because others hadn’t done THEIR jobs. You’ve already said you are happy for the club to stagnate whilst we adopt a new approach, but then you can’t sack a manager for trying to work through this limitation.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Utters0, Foghornleghorn, Hulmebantam and 9 others like this. -
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if we're comparing facts between the two managers.
Stuart doesn't have a relegation on his managerial CV. Parky does.
Stuart didn't preside over a run as bad as 1 win in 21, Parky did.
Stuart got us closer to promotion from League 1 than Parky did.
Stuart achieved a whole league season unbeaten at home. Parky did not.
Stuart achieved the above with a club with brand new owners, brand new to English football that didnt have a clue about our game, a club with no backroom staff, and a club with 8 contracted pro's. a damn sight less than Parky did when he came in.
after last season Stuart's team was dismantled from under him, and was given less money to try and rebuild - he then got his rebuilt, weaker squad into the top 6 and kept them there. His replacement has presided over a slide down the table.Utters0, Tillo, Hugh Jarse and 7 others like this. -
I don't about anyone else, but i'm just getting fed up of these rumours.
Even if they are partly true, the danger is they become a self fullfilling prophecy.
Fans lose confidence, revenue goes down, the club regresses.
I don't know who the OP is, but he/she is playing a dangerous game.
Speaking from experience, when rumours of redundancies start circulating, it tends to bring out the worst in people. For every disgruntled employee/ ex empoyee blabbing on social media, you can guarantee they'll be someone else quietly feeding back info to Edin to curry favour/ protect their own position.
Given all the troll accounts that keep sprouting up on twitter, its almost as if their is a coordinated effort to destabilise the club and force the owners out.
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IMO they got lucky the first season, fan's were buoyant as they had said they would invest in the club, we still had some very experience players from the Parkinson era, they added the likes of Vincelot, Stuart talked Mark Marshall around to stay another season (that was a massive plus) we brought Josh back for the full season, everything was very positive and so was our season beyond ours and the new owners wildest dreams.
Then during the closed season some fans heard about what they had said to Stuart and things could never be the same with regards trust between the board and the manager, once again Stuart worked wonders even though several top pros went for their own reasons, but others were let go because the new owners wanted rid of the so called "big earners" it was always an uphill battle for Stuart as he knew the first period of negative results he would be gone.
That's all history and we have to look forward with optimism to the coming season but there is still unrest within the club and we need some positive signs from the owners that we will a force in league one next season, over to you Edin & Stefan.Pineapple Salesman, River_City_Bantam, Utters0 and 4 others like this. -
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And changing where I sit to the klopp....
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I wish you would stop pleasessss. Both our previous managers had outstanding results for our club. What is wrong now is a much bigger problem.
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And no, Saint Parkie wouldn’t have stood for Yeovil debacle. In fact he didn’t. He saw what was coming and fecked off before it started...!Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Bantamsteve, Offside, Tony Wilkinson and 3 others like this. -
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Who said it's a he?
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Angers me even more when i see us finishing maybe 5 points off the play offs
With investment in Jan and not de stabilizing the club we could easily have finished top two
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By the way I do agree Stuart picked the wrong starting 11 at Wembley, and even more annoying when he made changes they were IMO not attacking enough, no problem with the Jones for Clarke but I would have preferred Hiwula for Law and gone for it in the last 15/20 minutes, but after the great season Stuart had given us it would be picky to say the least.
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