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Why is it a rod for our own backs ?.
Its Stefan who's made the decision he's openly said he will do all he can to put the mess Rahic left the club in right.
Maybe he is a better business man than many think, ie bums on seats buying food, drink, merchandise, hospitality etc.

 

You mean the mess Rupp created??
And while yes more season tickets means more revenue.... How did that go this season?
People seem to be getting their back up with my comments but all I’m saying is that while 12000 season tickets is impressive its insanely cheap.

The rod for our own back is because the fans are now used to paying this. Should we charge around the average then I would expect that 12000 to be halved.

 

Spot on, we have no choice than to offer cheap tickets else we would have around 6k at VP most weeks

 

When you consider the Board actually SAID they would like to charge just £1 per a game in the PL, should we get there. Affordable football was always the aim ......... So no rod to be seen from me.

 

I believe Stefan was aware of the statement, and didn't challenge it.
And yes, you are correct regarding the PL Clubs.
However, they will have crunched the numbers, and probably found that 14k will spend more than 7k in League 2, when you consider merchandising and commercial sponsorship.

 

Maybe, but he also knows he will have to wait. Start cutting the funding will most certainly mean his investment will go down the pan. Put us in admin, nil return, don’t invest, same outcome. If we suffer a further relegation we most certainly out of business given we won’t be able to play at VP. So which ever way he goes he loses money. The only way is to support the club and invest in the club now, to avoid the above. Or he cuts his losses now, but if he was going to do that he would have done it in January.

 

Thing is, if prices were £300 we wouldn't sell many. If we get to 14K that's great, however how many of those are flexi card holders rather than season ticket holders? It's not great financially for the club especially with the £2M debt this season.
The only way for Stefan to make his money back his promotions and cup runs. Tough gig for GB to take on to deliver that.

 

I dont take much notice of the finances of other clubs but the subject gets brought up now and again and most club run a deficit were told.

 

The important word there is “investment.” When you invest you expect a return. Is he ever going to get a return? Unlikely. What did he pay for the club.. £6mill? We have nearly a £3mill deficit. So we are up to near £9million. He is going to take quite a substantial hit in my opinion.

We looked to have raised roughly £1,5000,000 so far with Season ticket sales. Do people seriously believe that this will go straight into the first team?

We lose 250k straight away in solidarity payments. We spent over £150k on agent fees last summer. We have rent to pay and operating costs throughout the summer. We will have other payments to make to cover the current deficit. Player values will now be less if we are looking to move players on due to the fact we are in the lowest division and its highly unlikely any of these players will have relegation clauses so some of the wages we will be paying for league 2 will be massive.

We have had some decent away followings this season. We wont get anywhere near that in league 2.

I have said that selling 12k season tickets is great but it is only because they are dirt cheap. Financially though we are no better off and if anything the deficit people are talking about is only going to increase.


“JULIAN Rhodes insists City are braced for the battle ahead of getting back on an even keel.

Rhodes has warned to expect a difficult summer as the club, currently six points off safety, look to right the wrongs from the over-spending under Edin Rahic.

“We’re not in a great position. We’ve spoken about the financial situation this season and we want to get back to how the club was before.”

“When I agreed to come back, I didn’t realise until I looked at the figures how bad it was.”

“Even if we stay up, the summer will be difficult. But Stefan’s going to back the club”

“There is a drawback, of course. Because of the reduced prices Bradford are not making two or three times as much money as their rivals. Roughly speaking, they have dropped their prices by half and gained twice as many supporters, so income-wise they are little better off. “

 

Ok, what do you think Rupp will do? He has his investment, he can’t make any money if he sells the club, if he doesn’t invest, we could be looking at double relegation with admin at the end of it. Yes we have overheard sassy you say, but they are always there. Think the rent goes down if we get relegated. I still come back to the same point, how is he going to get any return on his investment?

 

Is Stefan not underwriting the clubs deficit ?.

 

Surely the ST money won't keep a 2/3M debt away for long at all though Dennis?

 

Its all just speculation from the fans. At no point has anyone other than the fans said that Edin had free reign and was doing what he wanted without Rupp's say so.

 

If he isn't he bloody well should be.

 

As you know the original wording on the fly bye was " Edin & Stefan" but when you are requested not to fly it because of the stituation it could cause, do you ignore that sort of advice and say to hell with the consequences. or take the request at face value and stand it down.
As fans I'm not sure what we can do apart from take the man at his word and hope he delivers.
Just out of interest what would you suggest we as fans do ?.

 

I've no idea Dennis I'm just going from what I've read on here and JR saying it was bad in the YP. It was a genuine question as you clearly have more of an idea about £ than I. My question was that if we are 2m in the red, surely the revenue generated by STs wouldn't take us very far before some sort of large cash injection is needed?

 

Julian in his interviews has already eluded to the fact the finances are a mess. He has already warned the fans about a tough summer ahead.

 

So whom and what covers our other expenses. Ground rent, stewards, tax et al.

Sponsorship, banquet suits? Have we actually got a ground sponsor next season yet?

 

OK miswording - the majority of which will be put into the playing budget.