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Wait, what? Bowyer wasn't involved in transfers? Then who was then - Rhodes? Wow, I thought they would have learnt last time what happens when the manager has no say in who is coming into the club to play for his team? Unreal!

 

It's not impossible we'll win two on the trot. If we don't then for me, it's an issue. But if we do, suddenly the squad could have a whole new attitude and kick on

50/50 for me for this to occur, perhaps less

 

I have just said if we perform poorly over the next two games I will have to rethink we won’t

 

Someone alluded that they thought Bowyer knew nothing about the players - but I find that hard to believe.

In fairness, I think the club genuinely tried for Agard etc - but as my article pointed out getting 'good' (whatever that means) strikers down to L2 in this window had proven impossible for everyone. Swindon have merely continued where they finished off at the start of the window

 

No the player showed a bad attitude and the fact he cant adapt as he has shown before in his career

 

Out of interest, what do you mean by sympathy for Bowyer over Doyle...?

 

doyle spoke to swindon press on how he did not want to come back weeks before the window opened im sure.

 

Fair point, but the rest stands.

 

Up until Christmas we were very much in the hunt for automatic promotion. We won twice over the Christmas period and drew at Swindon the terrible performances and results coincided with the return of Doyle and that can not be disputed

 

Dennis was there not dialogue between us both regarding the contract and that it was to be negotiated somehow. ie it was never going to be the same contract after January no matter what. Thats what I took from it.

 

B-but we had good form 4 months ago so our current form doesn't matter

 

There'll only you left to turn the lights out Park. We know you tow the positive line but it's gone past that point. Bowyer has to now expect a team shot of confidence because of him to now put in performances that will appease a fan base baying for his blood. He's allowed it to get to this stage, not people like James Vaughan and Eoin Doyle.

 

Doylems attitude has affected team morale there is very little doubt about it

 

We could defend before and showed a spirit. Fighting back at Swindon for a point etc. vaughan is a bad egg and has been frustrated, granted, but this disaster could have avoided.

It stems from Bowyers negative mindset. The number of draws we’ve had in the last dozen matches says plenty. Surprisingly, we haven’t lost that many actually, compared to a high flyer like Plymouth, but when the chips are down Plymouth go for it whereas Bowyer folds and plays it cautious.

Such negativity has frustrated fans and players alike. It was ok when we could defend and were getting results, but the defence has gone to pieces and undone everything.

 

I'm not convinced that Doyle would have performed for us, even if the best version of Pepklopp had been in charge

We need to accept that some times people become psychologically scarred by work related incidents. We have no idea what went on last season, but clearly, particularly when Vaughan and Donaldson was bought - he wanted away from us and had no intention of coming back.

I have a tad of sympathy for him - he's not a DVD film, simply to be shifted from club to club for viewing

I can't really blame Bowyer for this - shows how out of it Rhodes and Rupp were

 

I'd agree with you, if it wasn't so obvious that Doyle didn't want to come back and wasn't remotely interested in it working

Let's take the Scunny match, where Doyle had a good match and was oh so achingly close to scoring a very good goal (christ, we'd had been 3-0 and I think then would have won - given Scunthorpe's own issues). Even after that match he was asking to leave. Surely, start moaning after the next match the Mansfield match - not every other day for 20 days

 

I don’t think anyone is now defending him and league position is no longer being used to try and defend the style of football.

The discussion now appears to be around will they/won’t they fire him and the monthly circle jerk of wanting McCall to come back,

 

Then it's very difficult to see how you could blame any of the players during this spell. I'm quite empathetic to them right now, I think Bowyers tactics have been the problem, but is Doyle failing to control the ball against Scunthorpe and hence letting a great chance go, any different to the mix up for the first goal conceded on Saturday?

I like the way Doyle now apparently gets off scott free. There is no way you can be asking to leave every other day and then play at your absolute best. He simply will not have felt as relaxed, hence the mis-controled chance against Scunthorpe and I'm sure someone said he had a good chance against Crawley - he's gobbling these up for Swindon

I don't blame Doyle. No person can be forced to like something

 

Totally agree.

But it is worrying that our senior management didn't see what would happen when he came back. It wasn't even 20/20 vision from us

Some of us on here, who know about managing lads in the 20's and 30's knew it was unlikely to end well