Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Most liked posts in thread: Rupp

  1. JonButterfield

    JonButterfield Star Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    14,636
    Likes Received:
    24,636
    It's easy to let Rupp off the hook, and we're all grateful he has funded the club out of the financial hole Rahic put us in - but there's no question his presence at Bradford City is holding the club back.

    From Gary Bowyer not being given the funds to even appoint a number two, to a lack of a professional structure within the club (particularly after Rahic ripped the heart out of it), Rupp has failed to address the gaping holes off the field which are even more glaring that those on the field.

    For as much as we need a leader in the midfield and a competent striker alongside Novak, not having a football-oriented CEO and not having an adequate scouting system (whether they answer to a DoF or not) looks to be damaging us even more.

    How much reliance have we had on signing young, inexpensive players combined with those Stuart and the club know personally?

    If Stefan Rupp is going to invest anywhere this season, it needs to be OFF THE FIELD, or we will continue to look like we're out of ideas as a club. It's easy to blame Stuart, and he certainly doesn't help himself with his naive assessment of our squad and our chances, but getting this off-the-pitch structure in place is pivotal.

    We cannot keep spinning the managerial wheel and hoping for a Parkinson - and nor should we! Parkinson famously made off with all the scouting files, which is criminal. Was he in charge of absolutely everything? Certainly seems that way - which would explain why, starting again under Rupp and Rahic when PP left, we've had failed time and time again.

    Consistency, continuity, and having a plan will set us up for the future; lacking these will only set up failure unless we strike it lucky with a manager who controls the whole damn show.
     
    Jay, Fordy117, Chris Withe and 6 others like this.
  2. Captain Grumpy

    Captain Grumpy Impact Sub
    P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,930
    Likes Received:
    3,815
    Rupp leaves the football side to the CEO which is Rhodes at the moment. All he can do is fund the losses which he is doing. If you think silly aeroplane stunts will help the club go ahead, but I hope you have an alternative to fund the huge losses with no crowds all this season.
     
    Jay, Stoneski, Jonny78 and 5 others like this.
  3. Biker

    Biker Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2019
    Messages:
    1,441
    Likes Received:
    2,158
    To be fair to Rupp, he brought Rhodes in, a supposedly trusted name, who brought in Bowyer, a guy who had got Blackpool out of L2, and the manager got well backed with Rupps money.

    it was a failed attempt to go straight back up.

    Rupp has put decent money in but can you really blame him for thinking enough is enough and not throwing good money after bad. Particularly if he wants out now.

    He is entitled to ask what he wants for the club, just like Rhodes and Lawn did, I guess they both did alright out of it?

    Unfortunately I don’t see a knight in shining armour coming in for the club in the current climate, we are a huge challenge and the sleeping giant tag is ebbing away.
     
  4. Idlebantam

    Idlebantam Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 10

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    9,693
    Likes Received:
    21,302
    Of course they would, I think there would still be interested parties at £2million
     
  5. donhutchinsaffro

    donhutchinsaffro Regular Starter
    P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2018
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    3,179
    I hate what they have done to our club. We were flying before Wembley before we played Millwall and its been a mass spiral downward since then. Rupp and Rahic or Wrack and Ruin whatever fits. It depresses me to even think about it.
     
  6. trevor

    trevor Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    7,676
    May be an online petition for him to go might put pressure on Rupp to sell
     
    Jay, bantamdave41 and The Evidence like this.
  7. bantamdave41

    bantamdave41 Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    7,089
    Likes Received:
    10,273
    Same as the last few months I have called for him to leave. Wish no ill on the man, all the best in the future but as the owner as Bradford City, we have regressed, we are a fractured outfit with no obvious plan or structure.

    He was as responsible as ER in those days as well. Just because ER was involved in the day to day running of the club does not take away from his culpability in that period. He was quick enough to be on the pitch at the end of the game at Fleetwood with ER and at Wembley.
     
  8. Bronco

    Bronco Star Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    38,294
    Likes Received:
    41,395
    Unfortunately Stefan has little interest in football, but he should have an interest in his investment certainly in these dark times.
     
    Jay, 1975citygent and trevor like this.
  9. Dennis

    Dennis Captain
    Moderator Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    5,982
    Likes Received:
    15,003
    It was all very well Rahic leaving the club but despite the damage he created, he had very little skin in the game and what he had was financed by one of Rupp's investment companies. All it took was for Rupp to come to his senses and realise what was happening at VP for him to get Rahic through the door.

    Rupp himself is a different matter. He won't just leave and give his shares in the club to somebody else. He'll want to get whatever he can from his investment once the current crisis has been resolved and hopefully sell it on to somebody else. Despite one or two rumours, I don't see any evidence that there is another buyer waiting in the wings. Most of us would probably want that to happen but it will take another madman to come along and give Rupp what he paid for the club originally or for Rupp to crystallise his loss and sell the club for less than he paid. Unfortunately we're going to have to be patient ... unless JR's cunning plan comes to fruition! ;)
     
    Jay, Hoochy-Min and bantamdave41 like this.
  10. Chad

    Chad Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2018
    Messages:
    509
    Likes Received:
    672
    I think Mr Rhodes has done well to steady the ship, but hope him and his wife Lana find a nice place to retire sooner rather than later
     
    Bronco, Gardscoigne and baggers like this.
  11. andyc

    andyc Impact Sub
    P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    3,029
    Likes Received:
    5,655
    The three people, with real influence on this club , Rupp, Rhodes and Mcall are slowly squeezing any life we have left away.
    With no fans in the ground and the complete rubbish product being served up on the pitch, how many season tickets do they think they wii sell next season, if by some miracle we dont get relegated, because on these performances it could easily happen.
    conference football could bring the end to our football club.
    What would Rupp's investment be worth then , Zero .
     
    Jay and Stevay_b like this.
  12. bantamlad92

    bantamlad92 Squad Player
    P.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    2,844
    Likes Received:
    3,948
    Unfortunately, the reality is that the players we have at our disposal are simply not good enough.

    The person(s) responsible for our transfer dealings this year must be held accountable, and ultimately replaced with someone more competent.

    Is Rupp really the one responsible?
     
    Jay and Exeter gently like this.
  13. Bronco

    Bronco Star Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    38,294
    Likes Received:
    41,395
    As you say Rupp is funding the club, Rahic was a different situation everyone bar Rupp was a were of the goings on at Valley Parade hence the need to make Rupp aware with the fly bye, for all the stick Rhodes gets he will be working within the financial constraints Rupp has set him.
    You do have to wonder why there is money still left in the transfer budget many questioned the squad at the time and all that was added was a young kid from Wolves, I honestly believed we could get a win today and seeing how poor both teams were with the seasoned pro's in the right positions I don't think that was beyond us.
    Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but Staunton, Sutton, Samuels and Cousin-Dawson playing with players who were lacking in confidence was a bridge too far.
     
    Apperley Bridge Bantam and Jay like this.
  14. trevor

    trevor Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    7,676
    Rupps role is to put pressure on Rhodes to achieve, Likewise Rhodes job is to put pressure on the manager to achieve, Rupp needs to do his job first or the rest is useless, He must take more interest
     
    Jay and The Evidence like this.
  15. Pomfretbantam

    Pomfretbantam Fringe Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    561
    Likes Received:
    499
    I'm not so sure, just with basic maths it will show a modest return going forward. If you estimate the club running costs as 2.5 mil a season (somebody may know the actual costs but I don't). The club receives 850k in payments for being in league 2 and averaging it to 10k fans at £149 he is not far off break even. By the time you add any sponsorship money, cup success etc he will be making a profit.
     
    Jay and Briggus like this.
  16. YungNath

    YungNath Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,101
    Likes Received:
    2,237
    ultimately we were promised progress and 3/4 years on we're not even back where we started when they took over. disgrace
     
    Jay and bantamdave41 like this.
  17. baggers

    baggers Fringe Player

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2018
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    77
    How can Rupp apply pressure on Rhodes? If Rhodes walked he would not have a clue how to go about replacing him, let alone who with.
     
    Inspector and Bronco like this.
  18. Chris Withe

    Chris Withe Fringe Player

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    Messages:
    408
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    He has, the first line of his recent interview in the T&A read:

    'Julian Rhodes has identified a suitable successor to take over as City’s chief executive this season.'

    But Rupp's supposedly asked him to 'hang on' (also in the same article.)

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/18798956.bradford-city-chief-executive-proud-run-club/

    Rhodes also had a go at supposedly negative fans for expecting cash to spent to improve the club's fortunes. When, from what I've read at least, virtually no one has asked for that. Wanting the club to create an internal football infrastructure that's as professional as other clubs of our size is far from unreasonable in my opinion.

    I don't believe that fans have unrealistic ambitions or expect millions of pounds to be expended. Just a system that would allow the club to scout and acquire players through a system that isn't solely reliant on the manager's contact book and iPad would be an improvement. Ideally, a new CEO would have some current football knowledge/ideas. Because at the moment there's zero continuity, the club starts anew with every new manager. Obviously there needs to be some dialogue between the manager and CEO. But I'm sure that's pretty standard at better run clubs than City.
     
    The Evidence and Mike Hunt like this.
  19. pns1945

    pns1945 Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    1,562
    Likes Received:
    2,280
    I was but a nipper back then! ;)
     
  20. trevor

    trevor Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    5,857
    Likes Received:
    7,676
    The salary cap will probably mean City makes a small profit each year taking the pressure of Rupp to sell and increasing the sale value of the club
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice