Who cares!
What are you dwelling on the past for?
This is why your car wash is failing!! You have no vision!! Look to the future ffs.
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Botswana Bantam Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter
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Fordy, I thought you were better than this. It is absolutely bonkers to compare The Premiership, where the money disparity is exponentially different compared to L2 and also where first team squads do not have around a third leaving each season.
There's no logic or stats to back up the narrative, that a team has to have been better than we have in order to be optimistic about promotion the following season.
In L2, it has been showed numerous times, that previous position is irrelevant
Crewe and Swindon were 12th and 13th and then got automatic in 19/20. Cheltenham, who along with Exeter were the best team I saw that season - ended up 4th having been 16th the season before.
Mansfield were 16th last season and then got to this season's play-off final.
Port Vale ended up 13th last season and got promoted
We got promoted in 2012/13 having been even lower.
What I love about L2, that, more than any other division, promotion is linked to the manager who has the best ability to choose a correct squad and and an identity of play. We've got a manager, that already had us wishing the season wasn't over and the squad already 'looks' better.
The manager situation is very relevant. In recent seasons all 12 promotion winners of the past three seasons were in place no later than mid-June of that pre-season. In fact 9 of these were managers who'd been there the previous season.
This shows that knowing your squad and having time to build an identity - is far more important than previous league position. -
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Stafford Bantam CaptainModerator P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter P.L. 20/21 Top 30
5th, 6th, 17th*, 14th, 7th & 13th.
*It should be noted that the season after we finished 17th, we finished 4th (which, at the time, was an automatic promotion position).
There were also two seasons, in the 3rd Division (North) when we finished 3rd, when those positions did not count for promotion. The finishing positions for the preceding seasons, in those cases, were 14th & 9th.
The case I was trying to make was, is that there are precedents for bottom half finishes, followed by promotion the following season. For City, our promotions have followed bottom half finishes around half the time.
Sometimes, it just requires the right manager and just one or two (new) key players, such as Smallwood.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...CT Bantam, JonButterfield and borderlescott like this. -
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I guess we don't need the Director of Football given Hughes is basically running the club from a footballing perspective, but I'm very concerned that we wouldn't have appointed one had we appointed someone else.
I think we were doomed to repeat certain mistakes, UNTIL Hughes applied.
From thereon in, it was plain sailing. Club weren't getting that wrong. Get Hughes, back him, let him make whatever changes he likes. And that's absolutely the right thing to do. -
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At the moment I prefer our direction of travel….again we shall see if it pays off?Onside, Ashton Bantam and Stoneski like this. -
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JonButterfield Star PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
But it's easy to see that's not true by reverse engineering the situation.
Both Mark Bower and David Wetherall sunk down the divisions with us, and it made little difference to their performances. They didn't actually get any better. They were a 6 or a 7 the entire time.
Richie Smallwood has dropped two divisions and again, it seems to have made little differences to his performance.
All three could have suddenly been signed by Championship/Division 1 sides, and again, they'd probably compete perfectly well.
It's more about what those players are good at, and I imagine at Hull if Richie Smallwood recycled the ball, he probably did so with a similar pass accuracy whilst playing it to better players than Gilliead or Platt.
Smallwood has been poor lately, it's true, but the histrionics in this thread are embarrassing of late - he's the same player, and didn't become crap overnight - if we surrounded him with Championship level players, he'd look like a Championship level player himself. Unfortunately, without Crichlow in the back line, he's largely surrounded by mediocre League Two players.Rogered Tart, Hampshire Bantam and WilsdenBantam like this. -
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Interesting to see how Crichlow seems to have fit in very quickly to the demands of L1 football, comments from his new club seem very complimentary. He's a big loss for us and I don't think we've replaced him.Offcomedun, Onside and Bronco like this.
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