Relegation

You've answered your own question, you really shouldn't put fellow Bradford City fans down with stupid comments like that, every Bradford City fan I know and speak with are committed fans who attend games to support their club many liked myself over 65 years doing so, they also attend away games where they happily pay the going rate asked by the home club, please don't insult them with comments like above.

 

Do the maths. 18,000 at low prices v 7,000 at average prices is a good starting point.

 

Spot on, I have been saying it a long time , the penny is dropping eventually. And yes if I lived in Bradford and yes if I still had season tickets I wouldn’t bat an eyelid seeing increased season ticket prices ( Hypocrite shouts welcome ) if I knew it would solely go towards the playing budget. Others may not be able to afford it which is a different question. It needs balanced increases and an
“affordable “ purchase scheme, especially making it attractive for families . He appears that he’s not prepared to invest further, so why not let the supporters become “ investors” rather than
“ recipient's” . It’s certainly worth debating for sure and support your comment ( bar the drama) . After all we have to pay high ticketing prices going to away games , why not meet those prices half way per game?

 

Will it if they know the extra is going into the squad budget Rod?

 

Time to put the prices up a little when we get promoted and we're getting 20,000 every week. Not when we're bottom half of League 2.

 

Therein lies the conundrum and back to the theme, if the performance on the grass isn’t working we stagnate under Rupp, unless of course he wants to invest for “promotion” . I think it’s plain he doesn’t so it’s either performance increases using the current playing budget or perhaps price increases to improve the budget? . That’s the conundrum, if he doesn’t invest. I believe “ waiting “ isn’t an option under the CURRENT circumstances. Hey that’s what debate is all about.

 

Other forms of income are Commercial and Transfer fees.
Sparks has done particularly well with these.
Several youngsters at top end Championship/PL clubs where we will have significant add ons.

 

Transfer fees equate to selling up coming youngsters, which defeats our objective of raising players for the first team and there is not a finite commercial activity increase in Bradford imho. Large employers/ businesses hardly exist any more . Morrisons perhaps and ??

 

You can understand Rupps reluctance to invest when Sparks wastes it on pay offs to the many former managers he picked and the below par players they wasted money on.

 

Season ticket prices aren't an issue with our owner just a few on here who believe an increase will help with the player budget and ultimately bring us success which as most accept is not a given. I believe many would not be prepared to pay an increase of any size IE paying the average season ticket price for a league two club and would that have an effect on home attendances. That in its self will have an effect on hospitality, food, drink and merchandise sales, I find it a little strange that some of our fan base equate one to the other surely having the stadium three quarters full with many purchasing the above mentioned is better than a half empty stadium, especially when the owners policy is to sell season tickets at a price he believes are beneficial to fans and still gives the manager a healthy player budget going forward.

 

They both can lead to increased income. The McBurnie money for example.
Also, commercial revenue has helped increased turnover to over £8m.
Nothing is guaranteed of course. The youngsters may all flop.

 

Precisely why we can’t rely on transfer income.

 

Just think: every time we sell a young player that never even plays for their home town team, we're basically funding another poor managerial appointment from Ryan.

But don't worry - it's all in the budget!!

 

We're not relying on it?
I'm sure it's not built into the budgets,

 

The whole model us built on increasing attendances leading to increasing revenues. Just after a poor season is not the time to increase.

 

Agree I didn’t mention using the average price Rod quoted, I suggested from memory a balance has to be struck. I think it slightly odd that most fans don’t bat an eyelid in paying £25 at an away fixture , yet a home game is much cheaper over a season ticket. A modest increase to start should be tested. Maybe “ sectionalise “ , I don’t know , but realistically at the moment we must acknowledge that the owner won’t “invest” further. There aren’t many options David.
Transfer income, not a given
Commercial income , not a given
Promotion, not a given
New owner or shareholder coming in and investing , not a given.

(I haven’t included Prem / EFL cascaded funds because they are shared equally.)

Unless I’m missing other sources of income, there aren’t any other means of increasing revenue income by any great deal other than the turnstile.

Good recruitment and good on field performance is key , again not a given.

 

Low prices = increased gates
Increased Gates = increased commercial activity
Increased commercial activity = more money to spend.

Increase the prices, you increase the revenue from those that still buy, but lose it from those that don't, you lose sponsorships because the audience is smaller, you decrease your share of the profit in the kiosks, you potentially decrease sales in the club physical and online shop.

Decreasing the size of audience potentially does nothing at all to increase revenue, even if the product costs more.

It goes totally against the rules of supply and demand that when price is lower demand is higher and vice versa and would be madness until we have a product that the same number of people will pay more to see.

 

If we had home games against the likes of Sheff Wed, Huddersfield and Derby, in League 1, £20 each on a season ticket is an easy sell.