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Thanks for the update mate, I obviously hadn't kept up with the news regarding the case.

 

Whether he specifically knew that Roberts/Guiffre was being trafficked, it is simply not credible to believe that Andrew didn't know that Epstein and Maxwell were running dubious activities with young girls. He had several trips on Epstein's plane that was colloquially known as the 'Lolita Express'.

Even if you think he was being led to believe that she was into him and was therefore being honeytrapped, rather than deliberately abusing an unwilling teenage girl, the fact that he, a fortysomething bloke, went along with that to any extent is disgraceful. His claim that the picture of him with Roberts at Maxwell's house is fake is utterly laughable - absolutely no one believes his claims that he never met her, despite his continued protestations. He has also claimed that his contact with Epstein was only because he was a companion to his friend Maxwell - but this is clearly nonsense, as he is known to have been entertained by Epstein on several occasions. The man is clearly lying through his teeth on several counts. I know that doesn't necessarily make him guilty of what Guiffre alleges but it tells me, and most other people, that he is covering up stuff that he knows would be disastrous for him if it were to come out.

The fact is that he was regularly knocking about with two characters who were widely known in high circles to be up to their necks in dubious sexual activities. He has consistently refused to cooperate with US authorities by answering questions in person. His lawyers are using every technicality possible to try to keep this out of court. Whether Guiffre succeeds in her lawsuit, there's no doubt that Andrew has disgraced the royal family and will always be seriously damaged goods.

 

There was a reference to another sex pest in there and it was made in jest.

 

BBC and Guardian are both interpreting the statement as the money is going to her charity rather than directly to her

 

The Queen will only allow working royals to stand with her for Trooping the Colour so Harry, Meghan and Andrew will not be on the balcony, it must have been a hard call with regards your family, but the right one Ma'am.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10789775/Queen-BANS-Harry-Meghan-Andrew-Buckingham-Palace-balcony-Platinum-Jubilee.html?ito=windows-widget-push-notification&ci=519090

 

Stick him back on another BBC Interview. Car Crash/Comedy TV at its best.

'Just a straight forward shooting weekend'.

 

Can not see there ever been a criminal trial unless Maxwell gives evidence and even then not sure there would be

 

That’s what happens when you use all your wealth and power to avoid trial. Must be hiding something.

 

Wonder if her price for silence has increased since her deal with Epstein ?

 

Yes. However as you say later in your post I think the barristers are losing sight of the general aesthetics on this case and being tied up in 'winning' without actually clearing his name - if indeed his name is clear.

The flip side of that issue is if Virginia Giuffre has actually taken the $500k in consideration of not pursuing anyone else for this, is it not actually legally wrong for her to try and civilly sue someone again? That doesn't justify anything illegal that has happened to her but both aspects can be true.

Personally I'd like the whole damn thing to go to open court and get to the bottom of everyone that was involved, These legal games do little to instill a sense of natural justice around cases such as this,

 

I doubt Maxwell is happy to go down and see those who committed crimes still walk the streets. My guess is she will start naming names. She is unlikely to at present if she is going to appeal her conviction but if that option fails and all avenues are exhausted, that is when she will start to sing.