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Premier League and EFL reform [UPDATE 3 Dec 2020: Rescue Package Agreed]

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. Fordy117

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    11 clubs from lower league will face insolvency before the end of the season if no fans or bailout.

    Lets not get fooled here the government are doing sod all!!
     
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  2. JonButterfield

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    The need for the top 6 to have all the power is pure capitalism.

    The real question with capitalism is why on earth do all the rest tend to fervently support, back, and even praise them when we all see through it?
     
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  3. Fordy117

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    Bolton backing it now.
     
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    I can understand why some PL teams may be against the proposal for their own protection. For the life in me though, I can't undertsnad why any EFL club would be against it other than perhaps those who are in receipt of parachute payments.

    It's early days and I'm expecting at least one other proposal to be tabled shortly. Then the governing bodies and the clubs can have a meaningful debate on the options .. with or without DCMS.
     
  5. How

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    How do they fit the 2 who drop out of the premier league into the pyramid? Do they relegate 4 one season from league 2? I can’t get my head around that. I can see why some league 2 clubs would be reluctant if that’s the case. I think we should be the way we played last night
     
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  6. Fordy117

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    You seriously need to drop it mate and think.

    They'll be 4 teams relegated yes from div 2 and that what will happen every year but in the proposal money will also be given to the FA and no doubt 4 teams will come up for the National League.

    What the proposal is doing is basically sticking two fingers up to the PL, EFL and FA. It really doesn't matter what body you are in as you will get a bit of the pie.

    I've told you the top 6 are seriously thinking of going in to the EFL if this isn't approved or talks are not seriously discussed over this proposal.

    The issue we have right now is 11 clubs could go under by the end of the season if money is coming their way. The Rotherham chairman was nearly crying on Sky Sports today. For me I don't care if the top 6 clubs rule..I care about now and now clubs need support including Bradford.

    The proposal is a start expect another one next week but change isn't far away.
     
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  7. Dennis

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    There will be 5 or 6 times that number of EFL clubs which will go to the wall over the next few months without a major injection of cash. The only game in town at the moment on that front is the Liverpool/Man U proposal
     
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    What about the offer from American investors into the EFL. 20 per cent stake wanted in return for 300+ million
     
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    Why should I drop it? There is a lot I don’t agree with and a fair bit I do like. But we can’t just accept it because we need money now. It’s so short sighted it’s unreal.
     
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  10. Fordy117

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    It really isn't though.

    Like the Rotherham said "Football is putting the show on with the lights on but gates not open, money not coming in"

    No other deal on the table mate! The government need to do something like the Peterborough owner said but the government are busy giving themselves a 3k payraise.
     
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    I am sure I have read somewhere that the Premier League will not allow any EFL club go to the wall through the corona virus situation and when they cannot allow fans in
     
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    What do you say to the proposals that Parry has to resign for this to go through?
    What about all the supporters Clubs of the big 6 who have now joined together to condemn this deal?

    Why is it we accept the first offer? This is the 18th draft I think I read somewhere. It’s a power grab and must not be accepted without adjustments
     
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    All soundbites to appease fans. It’s all bullshit. Much like using furlough cash and spending 1.2billion this window. They don’t care.
    A lot of people facing no work for months ah but we will charge you 14.95 to watch your side. It’s complete greed upon greed upon greed. I hope it eats itself and we can start again
     
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  14. Fordy117

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    The PL is made up of members. We can say what you read is rubbish.
     
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  16. Fordy117

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    No one is saying the 1st proposal has to be accepted but the bottomline is 250m isn't going to come without changes now.

    What's the solution mate? The government not helping.

    Bradford City and others will go to the wall. Who cares if it's a power grab? Really! Money will help the EFL in this deal.
     
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    It's a no brainer for the EFL clubs mate including Bradford.

    Walsall Chairman says he's backing it.
     
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    Most of the cash would go to the Championship as it does now, League 2 clubs be lucky to get any decent cash from this proposal,
     
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    As I posted erlier, I cannot understand why any EFL club would vote against it.

    In the unlikely event that there are no more proposals from other groups, I'm sure there will be some tinkering around the edges to make the overall deal more palatable to some of the dissenting voices. One detail I don't particularly is the concentration of voting rights in a small number of clubs. There is a need for some checks and balances around that to make it fairer and avoid accusations of vested interests having too much control. Another one I wouldn't like is the access a samll number of clubs will have to the financial affirs of other clubs. That just doesn't feel right. Instead I'd like to see that as the responsibility of an independent governance body whose sole job is to ensure the financial viability of all PL and EFL clubs.

    At the end of the day, the EFL clubs need a huge injection of cash to ensure their survival both during the Covid 19 crisis and beyond. I can't for one minute believe the Govt will stump up the cash which leaves the PL itself or some of its clubs to provide the cash. And there will be conditions attached to that both on a footballing front and on the structure of the leagues.
     
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    No, most of the cash (about £250m or almost two-thirds of the total) which comes from the PL to the EFL via solidarity payments goes in parachute payments to a small number of Championship clubs, ie the former PL clubs. The proposal would stop parachute payments and distribute the cash to all EFL clubs.

    As an aside, that's why Rahic once said that the Championship was about the eighth richest league in Europe. He didn't fully understand how it was weighted towards clubs receiving parachute payments and wasn't distributed evenly amongst all 24 clubs.
     

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