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Premier League and EFL reform [UPDATE 3 Dec 2020: Rescue Package Agreed]

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. trevor

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    At the moment each Premier club has one vote and 14 are needed to change any rule, The proposal is that a nominated 9 clubs will get a vote and only 6 needed to change a rule, The drive behind this is Foreign TV money which is worth billions and shared between all 20 clubs, The top six want to sell the rights individually meaning they will get most if not all the foreign rights money, As with everything with the top clubs it is all about money
     
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    I wondered what had contributed to fxcxing up football.
    It's obviously this lot.

    Football got on fine with minimal rule changes over the years from about 1890.

    Why are we changing the rules now?

    (rhetoric question, no need to answer).
     
  3. Fordy117

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    Some EFL clubs will "disappear within five to six weeks" unless they get financial support, says Nigel Travis, chairman of League Two Leyton Orient.

    He also said 'Project Big Picture' - a plan by Liverpool and Manchester United to reform the English football pyramid - was a "great proposal".

    But he added: "One thing I need to quash is, this isn't about the pandemic, this is about a crisis in football that goes back many years.

    "Before the pandemic, 75% of clubs were losing money - that can't continue. The pandemic has, if you like, exacerbated the problem and we need to get it fixed.

    "I know you are talking about 'Project Big Picture' - this is a great proposal as far as we are concerned. It is certainly very promising and clubs need it.

    "Something like this has to go through."

    "The real villains here are the government," added Orient chairman Travis. "They've thrown football into a difficult situation. They said the Premier League has to bail out the EFL.

    "I understand that but now they are complaining about what is coming out of some creative people".


    "As of a week ago, as far as I know, all the Premier League came up with was £50m - that is not enough.

    "The £250m that has been talked about and the 25% share is clearly going to create a sustainable model and that's what we need in football.

    "If there are better proposals, I would love to hear them.
     
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  4. JonButterfield

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    You would genuinely think there wasn't enough money in British football.

    That is the embarrassing situation we find ourselves in due to chronic, long-term mismanagement of the game.
     
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  5. How

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    This is all about the top 6 not wanting to share the tv money any more as they don’t think the rest of the peasant clubs deserve it.
    I’d rather let them break away than accept this shit for the sake of 250 million grant for the EFL. This cannot be voted in. We will regret it
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    Yep, total fiddle and a racket run by rich owners.

    They can all kindly do one and leave English football for good, I wouldn't miss any of them one bit.
     
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  7. How

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    The majority of it is caused by mismanagement in the efl yet we plod on with them in charge.
     
  8. Dennis

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    There are three very different issues intertwined in the Man U/Liverpool proposal. Firstly a power grab by the Big 6 who feel they deserve a bigger share of the PL's riches. Secondly, a way for PL to be seen to helping the rest of the pyramid by sharing more of the TV rights with EFL clubs (without Govt involvement) and a third which overlaps with the other two, getting rid of the parachute system which is very costly and produces an uneven playing field in the Championship. Personally speaking, I'm in agreement with two of the three and if the price of achieving greater financial stability in the EFL is for a handful of PL clubs to lose out, I'd settle for the overall deal. I can say that since I have little or any interest in the PL clubs who regard a payment of £190mill to the club finishing bottom of the PL as a suitable payment for failure!

    I'm expecting other proposals to be put on the table shortly offering a very different solution. I'd guess that some of the midle to lower PL clubs will be actively involved in these new proposals.
     
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    Do the Premier league not take all the EFL rights and just redistribute with the PL money but to us? How do we know they are getting the best deal for us?
    The gap will be even greater it will not fix a lopsided championship. Plus I don’t think many side in the last 5 seasons or so has gone straight back up to the premier league when relegated?
     
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    Yes. That's the proposal. In overall terms, the PL broadcasting contracts are worth about 10 times the value of the EFL's TV contracts. The proposal is to amalgamate the two and give the EFL a guaranteed 25% of the total. Even when the share of the PL contract provided to EFL clubs via the solidarity payments is taken into account, it means the EFL will receive approaching twice the value of their current TV contracts.That's a good deal in my book for EFL clubs. If the cost is met largely by no longer paying huge parachute payments then it will be good for the Championship whose clubs are seriously impacted by competing with clubs in receipt of parachute payments bidding up the price of Championship players. Add in a some kind of salary cap in the Championship (as is currently being resisted by clubs in receipt of parachute payments) and the entire EFL will be placed on a more sustainable basis. That's what is important for the long term survival of the EFL.
     
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    @AgainstLeague3 are maintaining a rolling record of who is in favour and who is against Project Big Picture. Not too many have shown their hand yet, but this was the position as at 08:18 this morning:
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  12. trevor

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    Largely agree with this and if the proposal for the voting in the PL was to remain as now would be a move forward
     
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    I understand that but why the need for the top 6 to have all the power. They could turn around in a few years and say ah EFL is a burden. We only want to give them 15% now. They’ve got their salary caps in place and should be sustainable.
    There is no way we should lose the League cup or restrict the top league to 18 teams.
     
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    The PL broadcasting contracts for league matches will diminish at the next renewal. Thus less money to give to the EFL. However as the European competitions become ever larger then the television contracts will grow thus giving more money to the top 6. Thus cementing their position for eternity. Also by removing the League Cup there will never be a chance for any EFL club to "do a City" again.
     
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  15. Bronco

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    What makes you think that, someone posted earlier there will be more competition the next time round possibly the likes of Netfix Amazon and other streaming company's could get involved.
     
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    Rotherham and Peterborough up for it. Strongly in favour.
     
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    A route the EFL could have gone down? Who knows?
     
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    If there is any truth in that tweet, then you have to ask is Rick Parry is feathering his own nest, we dont know the details but as the EFL representative the offer should have been discussed with the 72 clubs it would have affected.
     
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    I think it’s clear he is. He will still be in bed with Liverpool and will no doubt get some sweetners from the other deal
     
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    Maybe that's one of the reason Dave Baldwin offered his resignation, he's no bodies fool isn't Dave.
     
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