And here's a spreadsheet with all the numbers.
Notes:
- seasons 1991/2 through 1994/5 only had 42 matches, so the points have been prorated to 46-match seasons
- also for these seasons, the bottom 3 places would be 20th, 21st, and 22nd
- and for season 1991/2, Aldershot's record was expunged
- only 2 auto-promotion slots in 1994/5
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River_City_Bantam Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 10Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Botswana Bantam, Stoneski, Stafford Bantam and 2 others like this.
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139 - nothing less will do
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I think the most points we managed in our last stint in league 2 was the 69 points that got us into the playoffs.
Looking at that table for 2012/13, 12 of the teams from that year are above us in the league next season, 6 are now out of the league and the remaining 6 were there in 12/13.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Botswana Bantam and RonnieBrown like this. -
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Stafford Bantam CaptainModerator P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter P.L. 20/21 Top 30
I've assumed the bottom 2 teams, both get zero points, except against each other (doesn't really matter whether they draw them or not).
Assuming the other 18 teams win all their home games, that's 19 matches = 57 points. Add on the two away wins against the bottom two teams adds another 6 points, meaning that the 18 teams would all end on 63 points.
So the highest number of points you could get relegated on is 63 points. Therefore, to guarantee survival, you would need to target 64 points.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...River_City_Bantam and Bantam42 like this. -
River_City_Bantam Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 10
So much depends on the other sides and the overall quality of the division, as the table above shows. Imagine 97 points and only coming second, or drawing the really short straw and getting relegated with 51!
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with all due respect guys this kinda stuff is pointless. you need more points than the other teams to get out the division and thats the only target we should set.
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Good work.
My 83 estimate wasn’t a bad guess -
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I'll make it simple
46 Games ...4 Defeats 30 Wins 12Draws = 102 pts ... Ave 4 goals per game promoted by Christmas. Anything less than top three in my opinion will be abject failure by the biggest club currently slumming it in the last chance saloon of the FL. Not interested in a play off place I'd rather we weren't involved than take a chance in a lottery game. It's up to Bowyer and who ever pulls on those shirts to deliver and deliver well !. Bury and MK Dons have shown the way. Lincoln too and non of them are a club the size of us !Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand... -
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Here's a related puzzle.
A premier league owner tells his manager that survival is the only aim for the coming season. The manager replies that he has targetted the minimum number of points to guarantee survival.
20 teams. 38 matches.
3 points for a win.
1 point for a draw.
Position of teams on equal points decided by goal difference.
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EDIT: Scrub that, I've just spotted a flaw in my calculation.
EDIT 2: I'm going for 64 points.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand... -
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In practice 43. Ask @InterestedBystander about this -
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