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Aye, that why last time we went up to Motherwell for a friendly we got spanked.

I'm also fairly sure the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United would also turn over the whole of league two, and probably the majority of league one, on a more than regular basis.

 

I think 29 appearances is a better description than full games, many have been from the bench. Failed to nail a regular spot hence effectively released.

 

What about them?

Or are you suggesting all Scottish football is rubbish because a part time team beat a top flight team in a one off cup match?

If you are it's a bit silly, but then again you're building up form for comments like these.

 

Ok Bronco, you've worn me down.

Crankshaw only played 7 times for Stockport this season. In no way has he appeared 27 times for them and the internet is lying. I apologise for thinking otherwise and you win. Take any prize off the top shelf.

 

Hahaha, this is contender for daftest post of the year already!

You're seriously basing your point on a friendly match 15+ years ago?

If we're gonna go down that route - is this the same Hearts that drew 2-2 with Crawley in pre-season? Or the same Dundee United that lost to Fleetwood in pre-season in the summer? These sides would turn over the entire League Two, despite a combined draw against Crawley and Fleetwood, really?

And the same Aberdeen that lost to an amateur team from the Scottish equivalent of the Conference North (6th tier) the other night?

And these are the so-called best of the rest of the SPL you're talking about here!

You do realise that most of the teams (other than Celtic and Rangers) in the SPL have a mass collective of failed EFL2 players in their first teams, right?

I've heard of stubborn folk refusing to admit they're wrong but you are on a whole new level

 

You said top two or three. I dispute that claim. I agree that the teams you mention are about league 2 standard.

 

He's non-league standard, mate.

Stockport have made the same 'mistake' we made by turfing him out because he's not actually League Two standard.

 

Totally agree Jon although Northernmonkey can’t see it. Noticed today after 2 games Ollie has made his way to the Well bench.

 

Not a bad move for a lad that is very average at this level, and really found a home in the National League Premier.

Although obviously if Motherwell are in the Scottish Championship next season, we all know that is non-league level anyway.

 

Bit like Crankshaw when he left. NL standard and lost in L2 with Stockport, moved on.

 

Crankshaw has moved on to the SPL,hardly a step down.

 

Crankshaw was outstanding for Stockport (mainly from the bench) in non league football obviously Challinor didn't think he would be a regular at league two level, so Challinor let him go out on loan to Motherwell who are SPL now if Motherwell sign him permanently then he could be classed as a SPL player, a little like saying Oliver is a striker we all know why he was brought in but as yet he's a lot to do to be classed as a striker, mainly score goals.

 

Eh? Have a look on soccerbase, Crankshaw played 29 games for Stockport and Motherwell already this season and it's only January. Some going for a player that's only non league standard and nobody wants.

He's also an SPL player simply because he's contacted to, and appearing for an SPL club. Unless Felix at Chelsea or Kulesevski at Spurs can't be classed as PL players just because they're on loan?

Your mate is wrong and every single statastic backs that fact up.

 

Yet his club were happy for him to’step up’ according to you. If correct a strange decision by Stockport chasing promotion! I think not, more likely on his way as not good enough. That was the point I was trying to illustrate clearly not very well.

 

You described him as "a NL standard" player. So far this season he's made 29 appearances in league 2 and the SPL and looks far from being "lost".

 

SPL is pretty much, on average, League Two / National League standard below Celtic and Rangers.

Same as the ex-City player going to the Polish league, aside from the top two or three, it's non-league fodder.

 

Darvel?

 

Challinor obviously didn't want him or he would not have allowed him out on loan I believe its 23 league appearances for the two clubs, of which Crankshaw has made 9 starts.
Against Barrow he was a sub.
Against Stevenage he was a sub.
Against Colchester he started.
Against Doncaster he was a sub.
Against Mansfield he was a sub.
Against Swindon he started.
Against Wimbledon he started.
Against Crawley he started.
Against Harrogate he started.
Against Northampton he started.
Against Walsall he started.
Against Bradford City did not appear.
Against Grimsby he was a sub.
Against Salford he was a sub.
Against Carlisle he was a sub.
Against Sutton he was a sub.
Against Tranmere he was a sub.
Against Newport he was a sub.
Against Orient he was a sub.
Against Hartlepool he was a sub.
Against Crewe he was a sub.
Against Walsall he was a sub.
Against Grimsby he was a sub.
For another well against Ross County he started.
Against Arbroath he started.
That's 23 league games of which he started 9.
I think these stats are correct.

 

What part of playing in league two and the SPL as a substitute makes him non league standard, as per the original point?

What part of one Stockport manager allowing him to go to a better league makes him non league standard, as per the original point?

I'll wait.

 

You have the stats "yours were wrong by the way" they suggest he couldn't get starts on a regular basis in a league two side as was the original comment, similar to when he was at Valley Parade so he dropped down to non league to get game time, it's an opinion just as your is, many quoted last season when Crankshaw was coming on from the bench and scoring goals they thought Crankshaw had found his level I'd go along with that.