Ollie Crankshaw

Not a bad move for a lad that is very average at this level, and really found a home in the National League Premier.

Although obviously if Motherwell are in the Scottish Championship next season, we all know that is non-league level anyway.

 

Bit like Crankshaw when he left. NL standard and lost in L2 with Stockport, moved on.

 

Crankshaw has moved on to the SPL,hardly a step down.

 

Crankshaw was outstanding for Stockport (mainly from the bench) in non league football obviously Challinor didn't think he would be a regular at league two level, so Challinor let him go out on loan to Motherwell who are SPL now if Motherwell sign him permanently then he could be classed as a SPL player, a little like saying Oliver is a striker we all know why he was brought in but as yet he's a lot to do to be classed as a striker, mainly score goals.

 

Eh? Have a look on soccerbase, Crankshaw played 29 games for Stockport and Motherwell already this season and it's only January. Some going for a player that's only non league standard and nobody wants.

He's also an SPL player simply because he's contacted to, and appearing for an SPL club. Unless Felix at Chelsea or Kulesevski at Spurs can't be classed as PL players just because they're on loan?

Your mate is wrong and every single statastic backs that fact up.

 

Yet his club were happy for him to’step up’ according to you. If correct a strange decision by Stockport chasing promotion! I think not, more likely on his way as not good enough. That was the point I was trying to illustrate clearly not very well.

 

I think 29 appearances is a better description than full games, many have been from the bench. Failed to nail a regular spot hence effectively released.

 

You described him as "a NL standard" player. So far this season he's made 29 appearances in league 2 and the SPL and looks far from being "lost".

 

SPL is pretty much, on average, League Two / National League standard below Celtic and Rangers.

Same as the ex-City player going to the Polish league, aside from the top two or three, it's non-league fodder.

 

Aye, that why last time we went up to Motherwell for a friendly we got spanked.

I'm also fairly sure the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United would also turn over the whole of league two, and probably the majority of league one, on a more than regular basis.

 

Darvel?

 

What about them?

Or are you suggesting all Scottish football is rubbish because a part time team beat a top flight team in a one off cup match?

If you are it's a bit silly, but then again you're building up form for comments like these.

 

Challinor obviously didn't want him or he would not have allowed him out on loan I believe its 23 league appearances for the two clubs, of which Crankshaw has made 9 starts.
Against Barrow he was a sub.
Against Stevenage he was a sub.
Against Colchester he started.
Against Doncaster he was a sub.
Against Mansfield he was a sub.
Against Swindon he started.
Against Wimbledon he started.
Against Crawley he started.
Against Harrogate he started.
Against Northampton he started.
Against Walsall he started.
Against Bradford City did not appear.
Against Grimsby he was a sub.
Against Salford he was a sub.
Against Carlisle he was a sub.
Against Sutton he was a sub.
Against Tranmere he was a sub.
Against Newport he was a sub.
Against Orient he was a sub.
Against Hartlepool he was a sub.
Against Crewe he was a sub.
Against Walsall he was a sub.
Against Grimsby he was a sub.
For another well against Ross County he started.
Against Arbroath he started.
That's 23 league games of which he started 9.
I think these stats are correct.

 

What part of playing in league two and the SPL as a substitute makes him non league standard, as per the original point?

What part of one Stockport manager allowing him to go to a better league makes him non league standard, as per the original point?

I'll wait.

 

You have the stats "yours were wrong by the way" they suggest he couldn't get starts on a regular basis in a league two side as was the original comment, similar to when he was at Valley Parade so he dropped down to non league to get game time, it's an opinion just as your is, many quoted last season when Crankshaw was coming on from the bench and scoring goals they thought Crankshaw had found his level I'd go along with that.

 

He's in the SPL, making appearances for an SPL team.

That's not opinion, that's fact.

He was also a big part of the Stockport team in this league two campaign.

That's also not opinion, that's also fact.

Feel free to twist it all to further try and defend your mates nonsensical posts but you can't twist the facts.

Oh and btw, Vernam isn't at Grimsby either. Another thing he just decided to make up.

 

For the record I read the Vernam piece in the media.

 

No he wasn't he made 7 starts and scored the 1 goal.

Your stats were not facts as you alluded to "Have a look on soccerbase"

 

Ok Bronco, you've worn me down.

Crankshaw only played 7 times for Stockport this season. In no way has he appeared 27 times for them and the internet is lying. I apologise for thinking otherwise and you win. Take any prize off the top shelf.