Next Permanent Manager (now with Poll amended to include Truemen/Sellars)

It is a massive call and not one I’m comfortable with after the Collins episode.
But I can see why he might go that route. My worry is currently there is no pressure but prepare the boys the best they can ( they’ve done fantastic at it so far) but when the problems mount up can they motivate a squad to win games? I am not sure

 

I'm not sure the new man would be happy with that suggestion, can the quality be brought in to cover Trueman & Sellars positions working with the kids if they were promoted, they seem to be bringing more kids through to play first team football,or was that always what we wanted to do as a club.

 

This all depends on who Ryan/Stefan's actual first choice is.

If that first choice is employed elsewhere and if they think they can get them at the end of the season then they may be inclined to go down the caretaker to the end of the season route.

The big challenge I see is the January window. Would these guys know who to bring in? Who's available? Coaching the team is one thing, balancing that and recruitment in a short window is more difficult.

Then there's the "what happens if we start losing" question. No one know the answer. Equally though, would they be worse than anyone else? There's two of them - is that helpful or not. I've no idea.

It's hard to say but if they want someone who's employed elsewhere as the number one choice then they may wait it out. If they're happy to go for who's available then they'll probably come in before January.

Not an easy decision though!

 

Kamara and Jewell were both Assistant managers and Dolan was first team coach before becoming manager.

All 3 roles at least have them involved within the first team management structure. It's a world away from working with school boys and to suggest Trueman and Sellers are more experienced because of that just isn't true.

Academy teams focus solely on development and results are, in effect, secondary. The whole structure and set up is completely different to coaching or managing on a first team level.

 

It is a very tough call.

They've shown clarity of thought, ruthlessness and turned an absolute mess of a team around in the space of ten days.

Very easy to get carried away and we have been down this route with the Collins appointment.

However, I am coming round to the idea of giving them the job until the Summer. Get a recruitment person in to support them and progress towards rebuilding the squad in the Summer.

 

Could McCall though (motivate) and he had 250lus games under his belt. No team wins every game. You’re right though, it’s a no lose situation, when you get the job there’s more pressure, obviously.

with each game they make a stronger case to get the job.

The concern is do they have the contacts and the ability to spot the right players, their team selections and who they’ve dropped tell me they potentially do.

 

It depends not only on Coaching ability but the ability to motivate and gain respect and that’s down to the person not necessary age and experience

 

Promote Trueman and sellers to first team coaches, with new contracts and bring a manager in to do the fundamental things signing players and the general day to day running. Everyone happy

 

Paul Jewell had no managerial experience, and got us promoted into the premier league. Just saying.

 

I don't really see the comparison with the Collins appointment.

The Collins appointment seemed to come after a long, draw out and failed recruitment drive where Rahic was talking about holding weeks and weeks of talks - which is just a bizarre and unrealistic idea.

We were then told that actually Collins was the man, beating off all other opposition.

Collins never had a single game to prove himself, he was just given the reins. It was really strange.

I get that we're discussing appointing another youth team coach, but actually there's a reason to appoint these (arguably), with a fantastic start to their managerial career. 7 points from 9, massively improved performances, etc.

But, honestly, I think it's a romantic idea but there's not much substance to it. We haven't appointed a Head of Recruitment, we haven't appointed a Director of Football, and so we're literally left relying on Sellars and Trueman for recruitment in a crucial January window...

If we had planned ahead and put all these in place, and let's be honest, they should have been in place long before we appointed Sparks as CEO (this failure makes that appointment extremely questionable), then we'd have the infrastructure in place to keep taking these types of risks.

But we don't, so for me we need experience at managing and running football clubs in position ASAP. We have to move and appoint our manager now. Hopefully that logic makes some degree of sense.

 

yes, but what if you that and they do well enough to get it permanently but a top quality candidate comes along in May ? Plus where are their contacts ? Say thanks, reward them well and groom them for next time.

 

with the biggest transfer and playing budget any city manager had ever had and a former wales manager and a future England coach sat next to him. he did well, but boy he had favourable circumstances

 

If we appointed them until the end of the season, and cor blimey what a risk that is, and they happened to excel, they would naturally be rewarded with a long term deal.

I don't think it matters who is available when you've got your manager in place. I'm sure when we first got to the Premier League there were managers with better reputations than Jewell who would have taken over, but Jewell was the manager.

 

A narrow win against Grimsby and Cambridge does not warrant a permanent contract.

People are getting too carried away because we have been used to sh*te all season.

A couple of losses and everyone would be calling for someone with experience.

 

I do agree think it would be madness to give trueman and sellers a contract to become managers they have done a great job so far but we need experience

 

Plus I’ve got 80 quid on hurst

 

It’s what had gone on for the previous six games that makes the last three results more creditable. I am not saying appoint them permanently but what it means is there is not the pressure to rush into an appointment if they are not totally convinced with the applicants so far

 

It was a nailed on promotion then! He had two wide players that cost 50k, big money was spent on Mills, and Rankin , Blake was 350k, windlass similar. It was a far cry from these days though, especially when you think it’s 20 years ago.

 

If we appointed them until the end of the season it's not like it would cost us heaven and earth to sack them if we really needed to. I think it's worth noting that a swift turnaround like this one is very unusual, it usually takes a new manager a number of games to have any significant effect on the form. E.g it took Parkinson months and several signings to steer us away from the relegation zone. I can understand the temptation to give them until the end of the season.