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City fans don't have it in them to protest like Coventry or Charlton.

majority don't have any ambition and are happy to stomach whatever shit sandwich is served up, just so long as it doesn't "risk the future of the club"

 

I think the only ones who can be mouth breathers are ones who don't have huge concerns over what's transpired over the last 24 hours, feels to me that Edin is firmly taking over every important decision at the club, and these pieces of news are the final piece of his jigsaw.

Doesn't mean every City fan won't want Collins to succeed though.

 

Get a fan favorite as manager to smooth the takeover, sell all the best players, refuse to buy in Jan.
Then sack McCall, blame him for the recruitment failure and get a temporary manager in on a short term deal.
Make the new role of "Head Coach" pretend to interview, promote an in-house patsy, push Mason out and take effective control of everything yourself.
Is this plausible?

 

Edin - "collins was a strong candidate since the weekend"

Translates to: we fecking panicked

 

I'm feeling emotionally bereft!
Hours in weeks I've spent in hope that some of the negative drivel would be proven wrong with a positive recruitment of a head coach.
ABSOLUTELY underwhelmed
However, I'm first and foremost a Bradford City fan therfore I wish the new coaching team ALL THE VERY BEST :thumbsup:

 

My less balanced, more emotional response is "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh"

 

Championship wages Jam? I think we're safe from the ravages of Championship wages for a year or two.

 

Well that 30 seconds I will never get back. Crap

 

There was no leak because Edin only made his mind up over the weekend. Or his and Rupp’s self imposed deadline of we’ll see who we can get by the 17th and if not it’s Collins expired. Wouldn’t surprise me if this is the final straw for Mason and he wants nowt to do with it.

 

There’s very little to base that opinion on other than Edin Rahic has made the decision. “He interviewed well” according to him. That’s it. The only chance he has is by assembling a very good squad in the next few weeks as Taweed has said. That’s going to be very difficult without resources given he has never done that before, Drury has never done that before, Rahic has never done that before. Greg Abbott is the only man basically qualified to do that.

Eddie Howe, Gerrard, Lampard had/have a structure around then that at least gives them a chance. We will find out quite quickly whether or not ER is as knowledgeable as he thinks he is, but you’re right Collins ability as a coach is impossible to know based on one season as a part time U18s coach. It’s a total punt to allow Rahic to do what he wants.

 

It's an easier sell to a potential employee when you're talking about the great adventure and someone inspiring to take us on that journey.

It's a new conversation when it is clear that same employee is risking the next step of their fairly short career on a 32 year old novice as their manager.

I hope the recruitment goes well and we start the season well but it's become more challenging for me. Edin's salary/bonus approach has already caused ructions amongst agents (even though some would say it's well intentioned), then there's the recent trading of blows with a journalist over the narrative of our story, so we're now adding a novice, young coach into the mix as well. It takes an agent with some balls to suggest that City is a winning pathway versus a more experienced coach/manager at a club that appears more stable than ours at present.

 

And Edin can be his long lost pal?

 

I'm not bothered about the ages to be honest, I'd have been pleased with a young coach with pedigree.

It's the lack of coaching/managerial experience alongside a lack of top level managerial exposure. He said his biggest influence in management was Michael Appleton.

Michael. Appleton.

Jewell and Kamara were both assistant managers - surely even you'll agree that's a different kettle of fish from coaching 17 year olds on a part time basis for one year?

 

Wow, has coaching badges, talks a good game, comes across well, is confident and desperate to do well.
Is there a manager/coach in the league who does not meet that criteria? Should not that be our starting point?
He's been given the chance, I hope he succeeds and I will get behind him. I just hope he is allowed to coach and manage first team affairs as he sees it and I hope this difficult job does not harm his future prospects.

 

Its hardly a thrilling prospect.

 

I don't disagree with all that but to flip the coin, pull out the positives and include the rest of the squad which won't be the fat of the squad you have players like Reeves who I still believe can become a decent player for us if he gets fit again, Robinson can only get better and better, Wright on paper seems a decent signing, Dieng I still think with the right partner can be a very good defensive midfielder, Gibson is a good squad player who will get game time, Wyke (if he stays) with a good partner should be getting 20+ a season. I still think we have the base of a decent side, the back 4/5 looks stronger than last year and with the addition of 3 or 4 more players I don't believe the negativity on the team/squad is warranted. I certainly don't see a relegation team there.

I think the problem us fans have at times is that we forget we're a League 1 side with limitations, we don't have 24 very good players like Premier League sides and have to work with 13-14 first teamers with maybe 6-8 season bench warmers who will only be bit part players and just cover injuries and suspensions.

If we trim the squad and move on players like Jones, Vincelot, NKP, possibly McCartan and like you say maybe loan out Patrick and Devine then I don't see the doom and gloom of some on here.

 

Collins was clearly wearing, and responding to, an earpiece which I assumed was radio linked to Rahic.

 

Given the amount of change we've had in the summer, and a brand new coach having his first ever stab at it, patience will be needed. But he needs to help himself - that system is a mess. It only works with the right players and I'd argue it only works with top quality players.

Defensively we were clueless - every time the ball went wide, their players had so much space it was laughable.

Fans CAN be patient if they see merit in what's being attempted, but that system was just a nonsense. And to have any home league game without a single shot on target, only 2 off target is simply unacceptable.

He needs a couple of stronger performances, quickly. And a simpler system. And a couple of quality loan additions.

There's potential in this side, but only if he deploys what we've got in the right way.

 

Doyle's best spell in League One came at Chesterfield when he had Gary Roberts, Jay O'Shea and Sam Clucas behind him in a 4-2-3-1, so he's capable of playing the role. The issue yesterday was that instead of building through midfield, where the lone striker will be well supported, we kept pinging it at his head with the midfield sitting deep and wondering why it he looked both isolated and ineffectual.

 

Good post @simons (woking bantam) , no idea why you incurred a bit of a rude reaction.

Pretty sure you weren't just stating 'what we all know'.