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Mark Hughes - NEW POLL

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by SimonW, Feb 24, 2022.

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Mark Hughes?

  1. Time To Go Now

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  2. Give Him A Few More Matches

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  3. Give Him Until January

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  4. Give Him Until The End Of His Contract (End Of This Season)

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  1. Petrov

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    8 points adrift of Gillingham yet we've scored just one less goal than them. The issue is as clear as day to some and as clear as mud to others. There was absolutely no need to mess with our defence and change to a back 3. The sooner Hughes admits that, the sooner we can start to make some progress.
     
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  3. Idlebantam

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    Good assessment of Hughes that from a neutral point of view
     
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  4. Onside

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    He has been reading too many styles of management books though. Female styles of management could fill several books.
     
  5. Hulmebantam

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    It's a view. Huge amount of conjecture and I find it hard to get past his use of feminine in this context.
     
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  6. Idlebantam

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    I must admit, the use of the word Feminine is confusing, well to me anyhow, in this context
     
  7. Onside

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    I took it as a slur on female style of management. Women are not passive.
     
  8. Idlebantam

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    Not in my workplace, that's for sure!
     
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    When I worked on the nightclub doors the women were worse than the men. Certainly weren't passive.
     
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  10. Dratsab taf

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    He spoke a lot of sense ,especially looking in as a neutral and a lot of what he said rung true.

    What is our game plan going into matches, is there one, there certainly doesn't seem to be. Like the analyist said we just kick off and appear to see how the game develops and take it from there rather than having a specific approach.

    He also mentions Hughes, demeanor and lack of responsibility, you do sometimes get the impression he is doing us a favour by being here and takes no responsibility for poor performances and being indifferent to criticism.

    EEEK here goes, wrong terminology I know but get what he means by a feminine style, in this league you need aggression and dominance (typically referred to as male traits and no one either male or female would have argued with it five years ago) and we significantly lack that. We are the softest and most passive team in the league and react to nothing. Often bullied off the ball, and go into a shell with a bit of criticism from the crowd. That needs to change.
     
  11. Sergio Pinto III

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    City have been soft for years. Not just under Hughes. Trying to think of how many combative centre mids we have had since Gary Jones.
     
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  12. Rogered Tart

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    He seemed to come from a neutral point of view, i could agree with the general gist of what he was saying, especially the way we set up and play, never really seem to come out all guns blazing. He wasn't being disrespectful to Hughes although despite his demeanour i suspect Hughes doesn't suffer fools badly.
     
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  13. Onside

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    I think he is a closed off man apart from his very close family and friends I doubt anyone sees the inner Mark. Just look at Harry Lewis interview this morning. Hell would freeze over before MH did and interview like that! I don’t think he is comfortable in front of camera even though he has done it a million times he makes himself look cool and relaxed. Body language gives him away. He actually reminds me of Parky in his demeanour. Including the folded arms.
     
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    I think Mark Hughes is a man very content with life and the achievements he has made during his career. I'd say failure at Bradford for him would personally hurt a very proud man but ultimately won't define him in any way. I don't know the bloke at all but I gauge the impression he is well thought of as an individual and his demeanour comes across as a calm and collective fella. Not to say I agree with what he has done so far for us, I have to agree with Angry Gaz in that he ultimately failed us last season when it needed a more proactive manager to take the fight to the opposition.
     
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  15. Dennis

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    It is an interesting article although I disagree with his label of Hughes having a feminine passive style of management. Passive, yes. Feminine? I don't believe for one moment that there is a single feminine style of management and nor is it exclusively a passive one! That's simply a sexist caricature.

    Having said that, the analysis captures Hughes well imo. He seems incapable of changing his style even when circumstances require him to do so. Different situations require a different approach and unfortunately Hughes cannot or chooses not to change his own approach. That surprises me. He has played under very different managers in his time - Venables, Fergie, Gullit, Vialli - who either have different natural styles or who can adapt their own when the situation demands it. He doesn't appear to have learned much from these managers.

    It's interesting how his style is compared with the likes of Ancelotti and Erikson who also managed at the elite level with some of the best players in the world. I remain of the view that what works well when coaching the best doesn't necessarily transfer well to coaching with less talented players. I don't believe Hughes can change that and hasn't grasped that playing in the lower leagues requires a very different approach to playing at the elite level.

    I like the guy. Unfortunately I can't see him changing his approach enough to bring success to our own lower league club.
     
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    I honestly want it to work he comes across as a nice fella but so was Bowyer and look how that turned out :( maybe his arrogance will be his undoing if he actually asked the senior players what they thought then we may actually get somewhere ............ the best managers in the game have done this kind of thing so why can't he ?????? Maybe he looks up to Fergie and his way of management the my way or the highway but that provided success for Fergie this as it stands isn't :( I mean what do we do now ???? Get rid now and have someone in now and hope that he can get these lot going on the other hand he actually may not like what he's left with .......... Or stick with Hughes and hope that he turns it around and we push for promotion or the other hand we see a season of nothing and the level of toxic rise even higher................he in my opinion has the next 4 games and we should be looking at at least 7 points .......... we pull in a poor return then sadly he's got to go ..............Mansfield will be tough but the other 3 are more than winnable
     
  17. Ulysses S Grant

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    Unless you add aggressive after !
     
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    I agree, the next four games are crucial to him. Anything less that 4 points and he's gone (or should be). 4 - 6 and it's still debateable, 7 - 9 he's to turn a corner, 9 plus and he's bloody cracked it.
     
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  19. Bronco

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    Who is the guy I thought he talked a lot of sense IMO.
    Certainly with regards allowing others to "get on with their job" I forget the player in this particular case (maybe someone can put a name to the incedent) where I believe Hughes took the word of one of his backroom staff maybe on a medical issue, letting the guy play and as it turned out it was the wrong call.
    Hughes reaction was to say I'll be the man making all the calls in future.
    For a neutral if that is the case I think he's bang on with regards fans concerns even with his over used term "feminine passive style of management" .
     
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  20. Onside

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    Is that all women or just the women you have come across? Women have always found ways of dealing with men in all manner of ways, so they don’t end up injured or dead.
     
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