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Time for big decisions mate. Not sure the club want to make them though. We've been wanting Bowyer out on TCA for ages now, like yourself we anticipated this god awful run after watching the games this season. Rupp has stated there is money available, he seems an honourable man and expect he will be seething at how the manager and players are letting him down. Interesting to know what Rhodes has been relaying to him in their conversations, it wouldn't surprise me if Bowyer was left in charge till the end of the season despite the growing calls for his resignation, its the sort of club we are.

To put some context on it i've followed City for the best part of 40 years. I thought a large handful of games i saw last season were the worst i'd seen in my lifetime of following. That yesterday was as bad as anything i've seen served up by either Todd, Taylor, Docherty, Collins, Grayson or HopkinS. To get completely bummed by a team as limited and out of form as they were, well i don't think it can be bettered.
A new low for the club this season.

 

very unfair, took us to a wembley play off in the league above. Has the best win % since McFarand. Won the highest points per game since 3 points a win was introduced. Constantly in play off throughout. Went undefeated at home. And most importantly gave entertained and kept most (you and a few others obviously excluded, why i dont know) fans onside.

Seems a long time ago we sang "weve got cullen"... but hey if you are judging his second spell as a failure then there is no point in debating with you. It must be personal unless you think others have taken the gauntlet up and have surpassed his achievements. Sacked after his 1st bad run by an egomaniac who had been waiting to pull the trigger since Millwall. If we had a decent chairman then we would not be talking about how we struggled to get 1 shot away against Mansfield in the bottom tier of the english leagues.

No point in debating with a WuM.

 

Yet again, not a single shot on target and completely dominated in attacking areas.

Time to go Gary, your football is sh1t.

 

I must have been dreaming when McCall got us to within a finger tip save of being 1-0 up in a Wembley play off final despite having Rahic above him. And then still had us in the playoffs when sacked again despite Rahic creating havoc behind the scenes. I'm not for bringing him back, that ship sailed ages ago, but lets not talk the blokes efforts down in his second spell, i find it distasteful.

 

2-0 down away at a side 20th in the league, with 2 home wins all season and the 2nd worst defensive record in the league, and his answer is to throw on an extra defender? And was anyone surprised?

He has no idea what he's doing. The performances are getting worse and more tellingly, the body language and effort levels of the players are getting worse too. I dont think they buy into him. He's lost them. We obviously dont do anything possession based in training and the abject inability of Bowyer to even create a chance for Doyle over the last 4 games is an indictment on his coaching ability.

The only way we have a chance of promotion this season is by getting shut. And we have to do it quickly, because we also need 1-2 players in. In particular, a midfielder who can actually tackle.

 

What reputation is he protecting again?

 

Hopefully Rhodes has enough about him to pull the trigger. I've seen enough now for months to know i don't want Bowyer as the man to take this club forward. Even if he's still here on Tuesday and somehow flukes a win i still want him gone. I'd rather the club build for the future from right now rather than have to endure any more of what Bowyer claims to be football. I was there yesterday, i've never known a City crowd so vociferous and toxic to toward a manager. And he only has himself to blame with week after week of clueless tactics and substitutions. I claimed on here a month or two back he was a lucky manager here with his results and league position. Usual numpties derided my comments, guess what? They were wrong i was right.

 

The fans were also toxic with each other yesterday.
Dreadful day!!!

 

The league is weak hence our league position despite the poor performances. This team has no cohesion so imagine what a decent coach could do with them. The back 4 were fine until he tried to add a third CB, Wood was doing ok until he tried to make him into a wing back. It’s a good enough squad to get out of this league and dare I say it, a McCall type manager until the end of season would do.

 

The players got little abuse if I'm honest. Quite a few actually applauded them. The players aren't daft, they know where our anger lies.

 

I am really sad about how this is turning out. I had thought that Bowyer was turning things round. The club seemed a happier place. He seemed to be a good man manager and got Reeves playing again - and he did well in his first couple of matches. For me it began to go belly up the moment Donaldson was victim of that Morecambe player standing on his foot. I have to be fair to Bowyer, the injuries have cost us, not just to Donaldson, but Devitt, McCartan and Ismail too.
Now comes the big but. He is too cautious and worries far too much about the opposing team. His formations and set up do not get the best out of the team or put us on the front foot. For example yesterday, if Donaldson was really only fit for 15 or 20 minutes I would have said not fit. We would have been much better with Doyle and Oteh up front with McCartan or Devitt behind. Baffled why Cooke is not one of our central midfielders and sits on the bench. The one thing I would say is the last 10 minutes after Donaldson came on was the only time after Connolly's miss in the first few minutes that we actually got in the opposition box. I think Donaldson and Doyle could work well together, but who knows if we will ever see it.
Yesterday was very poor and reminded me of Peter Taylor days. I don't like booing the players, we should be supporting them, especially when we are away and they got plenty of abuse, even McGee. I didn't like it yesterday in particular as I think the performance is Bowyer's fault for setting them up the way he does match after match, it must be demoralising. I thought McGee, Wood, Doyle and McCartan did their best despite the manager.

I am not sure where this leaves us. If Bowyer gets the boot, who will come in? Will they be able to improve the team and performances in time for this season? I am certain though that if Bowyer is to go, we need a new credible management team to step into their place immediately. How likely is that?

 

I bet Stuart struggles to sleep at might knowing old Norm don't rate him.

 

I just hope Julian's got Neil Warnock's phone number.
He said recently that he was ready for last hurrah.

One thing is certain, his press conferences wouldn't be a boring as Bowyers.

 

Even if Rhodes and Rupp have given up on promotion this season, or if they put it to one side, they just cannot leave Bowyer in post for the rest of the season. The toxic atmosphere between the club and the fans will just ferment around the place. They have to look at the next season and the lack uptake in ST sales will no doubt focus their collective minds!

 

Gary Bowyer has a win % @City of 30.4

In comparison McCall failed spell here he had a win% of 34.6 and parky had that win% also.

McCall win% last time was 45.8% yet some just look at his last 6 games when the rahic manipulation took its toll. ;-(

Others worth looking at
Collins 28%
Grayson and Jackson 21%
Hopkin 20%

League 2 this year is a very poor league IMHO

 

Shame familys being involved. not nice.

 

It's nonsence I bet - Either sh!t or get off the pot

 

Think todays result was my tipping point. We've offered f**k all for the last 5 or 6 games. That result is up there in terms of our Peter Taylor days for bottom of the barrel.

 

Mate, it was a joke post. I thought that was obvious. It was in response to the two earlier posts last night about Vaughan apparently being on his way and about the players all falling out with each other at training.

 

I hope Bowyer leaves of his own accord. The guy is decent in comparison to Grayson and Hopkin, so I’d hate to see him abused because he doesn’t deserve that. He’s gone a long way to pulling the club back together but needs to go quickly before it all unravels again.

All this team need is an identity, galvanising and stability because we have the players to be performing far better than we are.