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  1. Storck

    Storck Regular Starter

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    Maybe it was just the collapse of his transfer to Lincoln?
     
  2. BoingBoing

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    He could argue that he lost opportunities for bonuses and by getting relegated, he lost 10-20% of his wages.
     
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  3. BoingBoing

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    His transfer to Lincoln? I wasn’t aware they were interested?
     
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  4. Storck

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    Did he have a relegation clause?
     
  5. Storck

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    Good job he isn’t on bail for a serious sexual offence then.
     
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  6. Carts #CTID

    Carts #CTID Fringe Player

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    Oh what’s changed? You seem to know a lot... willing to share?
     
  7. BoingBoing

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    According to the club (or was it club officials on here) most of the players had a relegation clause
     
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  8. Storck

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    I thought they said some had
     
  9. Carts #CTID

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    Oh yes “released under investigation” - basically the same thing other than he doesn’t have to answer bail at any given time. The police will just drag him back in when they are ready and charge him.
     
  10. BoingBoing

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    Isn’t he?
     
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  11. Storck

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    If he was they would have had to charge him. Didn’t you read any of the comments you were involved with yesterday, or the link provided about people that had been under investigation for over a year?

    Legal-Charging-Police Bail-Under Investigation
     
  12. BoingBoing

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    Yes, I did read it, but let’s be honest here, other than the legal terminology is it really any different? You used to be able to to be released on bail for long periods of time. To change that, they capped the max number of days to 28 but all it means is that they are still in limbo but with a different name and different restrictions
     
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  13. Storck

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    Yep. So as I have said he can not be on bail.
     
  14. Storck

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    In North Korea probably don’t bother with the investigation or trial
     
  15. trevor

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    It seems neither do our police who prefer to keep people dangling for months and years with no recourse in law and the person have to accept that only the police will decide how long they will keep your life in suspension
     
  16. Bigrod

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    Okay time for people to do something about it!

    The principles in this matter irrespective of Robinson are quite significant.

    It does impact on the complainant, the accused, their respective families and the professionals. So rather than just becoming upset or angry about the issue do something about it!

    Contact your MP, here is how to do it https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-your-mp/

    In the past BT organised and had arranged a fly past! Someone organise an online petition so that the general issue is debated in Parliament https://www.change.org/start-a-petition?utm_source=sem&utm_medium=google_ad&utm_campaign=Search%3ESAP%3EUK%3ENonBrand%3EBMM&utm_term=%2Bpetition%20%2Bhow|b|AG:57755432283|AD:295930957112&utm_content=2019_07_31&gclid=CjwKCAjw-ITqBRB7EiwAZ1c5U9wnY55Bh1Yd8b3Ft37VU5wm8iCczCbPaLLbU80DHLMa_S1WTvM7WRoCEmgQAvD_BwE

    Write to the T&A https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/contact/ ask them to run an article on the matter.

    It is fine for lots of people to express their dissatisfaction, but actually doing something about, putting yourself out a little, well that perhaps needs a little more!
     
  17. Carts #CTID

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    Robinson boarding a plane today at Leeds Bradford Airport...

    We can all write off an imminent return for him now - football season just kicked off and he’s off on holiday.

    Such a shame.
     
  18. Storck

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    Maybe he thought he was going to be.
     
  19. Carts #CTID

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    Never a truer word said. Great post!
     
  20. trevor

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    While accepting some of what you say the point I made is still valid and is not acceptable that only the police shall determine when you are released as a potential criminal and you have no recourse to the law or courts, The previous bail system had time limits that the police could only extend with appropriate evidence of a criminal charge to a judge,
    Under the present system that time limit has been removed and the police have made full use of it, There is a suspicion that the police are demonstrating the effects of the cuts in this area to prove a point.

    Here is some more information for those interested in the subject and what is becoming a human rights issue,
    Courtesy the Daily Telegraph
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/18/changes-police-bail-has-led-delays-uncertainty/

    " Jenny Wiltshire, Head of General Crime at Hickman & Rose solicitors, said: "The changes to the police bail regulations were meant to end the injustice of people being kept in legal limbo for months on end as they waited for police to decide what to do. This shows the problem hasn't gone away. In fact it's got worse.

    "Whereas criminal suspects were previously kept waiting for far too long on bail; now they are kept waiting for even longer while 'under investigation'.

    “In one way this new ‘under investigation’ status is even worse than bail as police are not obliged provide updates on how the case is progressing nor when it may end.

    “People, who may be innocent of any crime, are forced to put their whole lives on hold - and live under a cloud of suspicion - as they wait for the police to make up their minds without any idea of when this might happen."
     
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