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Legal-Charging-Police Bail-Under Investigation

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Petrov, Jul 28, 2019.

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  1. Storck

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    Maybe it was just the collapse of his transfer to Lincoln?
     
    #21 Storck, Jul 29, 2019
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    #22 Onside, Jul 29, 2019
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  3. BoingBoing

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    He could argue that he lost opportunities for bonuses and by getting relegated, he lost 10-20% of his wages.
     
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    His transfer to Lincoln? I wasn’t aware they were interested?
     
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    #24 BoingBoing, Jul 29, 2019
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    I wouldn’t thought any club would want him in his current position.
     
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  6. Storck

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    Did he have a relegation clause?
     
    #26 Storck, Jul 29, 2019
  7. Storck

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    Good job he isn’t on bail for a serious sexual offence then.
     
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  8. Carts #CTID

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    Oh what’s changed? You seem to know a lot... willing to share?
     
    #28 Carts #CTID, Jul 29, 2019
  9. BoingBoing

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    According to the club (or was it club officials on here) most of the players had a relegation clause
     
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  10. Storck

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    If he was on bail or had been he would have either been charged or released by now. He must have been released under investigation which mean that at the time they didn’t have enough evidence to make a charging decision but thought some more could come to light after further investigation.
     
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  11. Storck

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    I thought they said some had
     
    #31 Storck, Jul 29, 2019
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    Oh yes “released under investigation” - basically the same thing other than he doesn’t have to answer bail at any given time. The police will just drag him back in when they are ready and charge him.
     
    #32 Carts #CTID, Jul 29, 2019
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    Isn’t he?
     
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  14. Storck

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    Major difference is with bail there are strict time limits, with RUI it can go forever
     
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    If he was they would have had to charge him. Didn’t you read any of the comments you were involved with yesterday, or the link provided about people that had been under investigation for over a year?

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    #35 Storck, Jul 29, 2019
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    Yes, I did read it, but let’s be honest here, other than the legal terminology is it really any different? You used to be able to to be released on bail for long periods of time. To change that, they capped the max number of days to 28 but all it means is that they are still in limbo but with a different name and different restrictions
     
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    We have asked on numerous occasions to stick to the facts which are in the public domain on the Robinson situation. It would be a shame to have to lock yet another thread on the same issue because posters can't distinguish between facts and tittle tattle. He isn't on bail; in fact he hasn't even been charged with any offence. His case remains under investigation, no more, no less.
     
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    Yep. So as I have said he can not be on bail.
     
    #38 Storck, Jul 29, 2019
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    Here is the governments guide for Public Prosecutors. It is a detailed and lengthy document which sets out the boundaries for practice. https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/code-crown-prosecutors
    From what I can see it doesn’t include timescales, which in my view doesn’t assist. The situation in essence seems to be ‘drifting’, as there is no apparent action (something may well be occurring, but if it is, it is not in the public domain).
    I read an article in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago. I cannot locate it ‘on line’, but I recall that there was a significant delay in Leeds, if my memory is correct, it was taking over 18 months to determine how to proceed with matters.
    This is in part due to shortfalls in staffing. I guess there may well be something in the way the process is governed and managed, both locally and nationally.
    My view is that the current apparent impasse is fundamentally flawed, for the complainant, the accused, their respective families and indeed the professionals who have to work in such a system.
     
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    One guy was in the news he has been RUI for over 5 years now and still awaiting a decision, It is now worse than a North Korean police state,
     
    #40 trevor, Jul 30, 2019
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