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Labour Manifesto 2019

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Amber, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. Amber

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    Alright, mate. So you've failed to give any actual examples but you still think someone in the top 5% spending it towards a 2nd house in the midst of a housing crisis does more public good than the money going towards the NHS and its underpaid workers. Nice one.
     
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  2. Rogered Tart

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    What exactly do you want for an example? Times, dates, names of suspects lol? I don't have to justify my opinion or my observation to anyone let alone a faceless name on an internet forum. I've lived and worked long enough to know my effort toward the tax burden of this country will make no difference to me if i pay more or less. It might to you, please feel free to give as much as you want while i have a little laugh to myself knowing where your extra contribution will go lol.
     
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  3. Tony Wilkinson

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    If someone in the top 5% you say spends his money on a 2nd house well, it's HIS bloody money, get your hands out of his pocket......
     
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    Do you really believe that? Council tax will keep rising, RFL will no doubt change with costs being blamed on the environment, the Oil Windfall Tax would be served back out in Heat and Light bills and at the petrol pumps, then in the Supermarkets through expensive transit costs to stores. Tax income is at an all time high at the current rates, sticking it up to 26% will just see profits diverted elsewhere to other countries where they can pay lower rates.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    An ordinary Joe on Question Time last night who was class as being in the top 5% because he earner 80,000 + which I find amazing, he quoted most doctors would earn that, is there any wonder they don't want to work extra hours.
    Labour say the super rich don't pay their share of tax which may be true, yet they are allowed to do deals with HMCR and pay as little as possible, good luck with milking the super rich their money will just go off shore and even less coming to the Exchequer
    We haven't seen the Tory manifesto yet but no doubt it will be full of giveaways now we are no longer in austerity according to them, the political establishment really do take the UK public for fools.
     
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  6. Rogered Tart

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    Agree mate, i really can’t believe how gullible the British public are. And don’t get me wrong l, i’m all for better pay for public sector workers, but then i’m all for better pay for everyone. But as i’ve said before you can’t take off the poor, they’ve got fk all, you can’t take from the rich cos thats not how it works.
    Just squeeze the ones in the middle, the usual cash cow.
     
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  8. trevor

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    It is immoral in my opinion to take more than half (50%) of anyone's earnings in taxation no matter how much they earn,
    Taxing " The Rich" more will actually bring in LESS money as proved under Thatcher and the rise in company tax from 19% to 26% will mean companies will have to increase prices to the customer to pay for it so prices will rise,
    Only mugs vote for this Labour party
     
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  9. Amber

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    Nobody's proposing taking more than half of people's earnings ffs, the 50% rate would only be applied to earnings over 125k.
    This used to be a country with ambition, how have we got to the point where everybody's shitting their pants about an extremely minor raise in taxes?
     
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  10. trevor

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    So your post is wrong, They ARE proposing to take half a persons income in tax
     
  11. NorthernMonkey

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    No, (s)he's right. The 50% wil only be deducted on a small amount if the salary, anything earned under the £125,000 limit will be subject to a lower tax rate.
     
  12. trevor

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    I understand that but it will still be 50% even if on a portion of income, And more and more doctors and civil servants are falling in to that category with some earning £140k plus and even the Bradford council chief over £200k so we are not talking about the ultra rich

    https://www.reed.co.uk/average-salary/average-doctor-salary
     
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    It's still not 50% of the salary though.

    You'll have to ask someone with more time than me but a person earning 130,000 for instance at a rough guess would have a tax bill of around 30- 35% ish of the total salary.
     
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    Still too much. Handing over a third of your hard earned salary is shocking.

    Must be more than 5% of people that would be affected too
     
  15. Amber

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    Given a lot of people seem to be confused by the numbers, here's a tool where you input what you earn and it calculates how much more you'd pay
    https://calculate.forlabour.com/
    Someone on 81k would pay £50 extra a year
     

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  16. Dennis

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    How do you come to that conclusion?

    The Govt's stats don't show that at all. According to HMRC and ONS, the 95percentile for gross income was £75,300. Or if you like 5% of UK tax payers were paid more than £75,300. So in reality slightly less than than 5% would be affected by increasing the tax rates for those on £80,000.
     
  17. Tony Wilkinson

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    The basic salary of an MP is due to increase by 2.7% from 1 April 2019 from the current rate of £77,379 to £79,468 as announced on Thursday 28 February 2019 by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa).

    What a coincidence eh...?
     
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    Worth every penny Tone.
     
  19. Tony Wilkinson

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    Totally agree, my point was it's just below the proposed £80k tax rate...
     
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    Just stick it on the expenses eh?
     

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