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  1. NorthernMonkey

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    Why doesn't Corbyn just admit that he's doing everything in his power to remain part of the EU?

    That basically says, if Labour get into power they'll offer us a referendum on a deal that by all but name keeps us in the EU and if we reject it we'll just stay in the EU anyway.
     
  2. NorthernMonkey

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    No, (s)he's right. The 50% wil only be deducted on a small amount if the salary, anything earned under the £125,000 limit will be subject to a lower tax rate.
     
  3. Edin Nowhere

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    Do you really believe that? Council tax will keep rising, RFL will no doubt change with costs being blamed on the environment, the Oil Windfall Tax would be served back out in Heat and Light bills and at the petrol pumps, then in the Supermarkets through expensive transit costs to stores. Tax income is at an all time high at the current rates, sticking it up to 26% will just see profits diverted elsewhere to other countries where they can pay lower rates.
     
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  4. Amber

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    Given a lot of people seem to be confused by the numbers, here's a tool where you input what you earn and it calculates how much more you'd pay
    https://calculate.forlabour.com/
    Someone on 81k would pay £50 extra a year
     

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  5. NorthernMonkey

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    They're politicians, of course they won't keep the promises they make.

    That applies to the other parties aswell though, not just Labour.
     
  6. abbomf

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    The intervention of the state into business "control" is scary and can only end one way. They don't understand "aspiration" some don't want to be an employee/worker forever, they seek a way out/forward, they take risks, personal risks, along with no holiday or sick pay. Under Labour they'd make sure they paid less tax, not more, play the Labour game and they might as well get a job, £10 min ph, paid sick/holidays, far lower working hour week, what's not to like? It's mind numbing.
     
  7. Amber

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    Alright, mate. So you've failed to give any actual examples but you still think someone in the top 5% spending it towards a 2nd house in the midst of a housing crisis does more public good than the money going towards the NHS and its underpaid workers. Nice one.
     
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  8. Tony Wilkinson

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    If someone in the top 5% you say spends his money on a 2nd house well, it's HIS bloody money, get your hands out of his pocket......
     
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  9. Bronco

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    An ordinary Joe on Question Time last night who was class as being in the top 5% because he earner 80,000 + which I find amazing, he quoted most doctors would earn that, is there any wonder they don't want to work extra hours.
    Labour say the super rich don't pay their share of tax which may be true, yet they are allowed to do deals with HMCR and pay as little as possible, good luck with milking the super rich their money will just go off shore and even less coming to the Exchequer
    We haven't seen the Tory manifesto yet but no doubt it will be full of giveaways now we are no longer in austerity according to them, the political establishment really do take the UK public for fools.
     
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  10. trevor

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    It is immoral in my opinion to take more than half (50%) of anyone's earnings in taxation no matter how much they earn,
    Taxing " The Rich" more will actually bring in LESS money as proved under Thatcher and the rise in company tax from 19% to 26% will mean companies will have to increase prices to the customer to pay for it so prices will rise,
    Only mugs vote for this Labour party
     
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  11. Amber

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    Nobody's proposing taking more than half of people's earnings ffs, the 50% rate would only be applied to earnings over 125k.
    This used to be a country with ambition, how have we got to the point where everybody's shitting their pants about an extremely minor raise in taxes?
     
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  12. Tony Wilkinson

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    The basic salary of an MP is due to increase by 2.7% from 1 April 2019 from the current rate of £77,379 to £79,468 as announced on Thursday 28 February 2019 by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa).

    What a coincidence eh...?
     
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    Your last sentence is entirely made up and.......nonsense.

    My post clearly alluded to business and those sticking their necks out to start and run one, those people (generally) are motivated by money, obviously. Every tax increase sticks in the throat of your hard working plumber/joiner/electrician & similar sole traders who do not have sick or holiday pay or protected working conditions or even a guaranteed income, so you can increase their tax all you want, but they'll only "reclaim" the deficit by being "creative".

    To me, raising tax on higher earners is just a populist & likely to fail policy, but worse, just so unimaginative in 2019!
     
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  14. Sergio Pinto III

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    Because the Tories will take us out. Lib Dems will keep us in. Labour are trying to appease both sides by holding another referendum - but like you say, we know LABOUR don't want to leave so it is a terrible waste of time. It is clearly a political strategy and nothing else.

    Corbyn was asked 9 times what side he would campaign for in the TV debates and he didn't answer it correctly once.

    If you want my honest answer - Corbyn wants us out of the EU but he is in the pockets of the EU now and toeing the party line....he is too afraid to admit it.
     
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  15. NorthernMonkey

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    Yep, it was a rhetorical question really.

    I also remember in the debate that they both believed telling the truth on the big issues was important to restore trust in the electorate.

    Does that start before or after they get elected?
     
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    He's been anti EEC when we first joined and been anti EU up until recently then he tries to convince voters he's very much a remainer.
    This is Corbyn's view on the EU and nothing has changed with regards his EU bureaucracy and being totally uncountable to anybody, powers have gone from national parliaments, not gone to the European Parliament they've gone to the commission and to some extent to the council of ministers.
     
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  17. Rogered Tart

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    What exactly do you want for an example? Times, dates, names of suspects lol? I don't have to justify my opinion or my observation to anyone let alone a faceless name on an internet forum. I've lived and worked long enough to know my effort toward the tax burden of this country will make no difference to me if i pay more or less. It might to you, please feel free to give as much as you want while i have a little laugh to myself knowing where your extra contribution will go lol.
     
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  18. Rogered Tart

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    Agree mate, i really can’t believe how gullible the British public are. And don’t get me wrong l, i’m all for better pay for public sector workers, but then i’m all for better pay for everyone. But as i’ve said before you can’t take off the poor, they’ve got fk all, you can’t take from the rich cos thats not how it works.
    Just squeeze the ones in the middle, the usual cash cow.
     
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  20. Tony Wilkinson

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    Totally agree, my point was it's just below the proposed £80k tax rate...
     
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