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So do Russia get none of the blame for this? What about Iran? Syria has effectively been a client state/satrap of Iran for decades.

The demonstrations in Syria that occurred during the "Arab spring" were outside of US influence, during the subsequent civil war both the U.S and Russia played a prominent role, but it seems a lot of the funding for the Syrian government came from Iran and a lot of the funding for the myriad rebel groups came from Sunni gulf countries like Qatar and the Saudi's.

The U.S and Russia have played a significant role in the Middle East through their politicking but blame also needs to be laid at the feet of the local sectarian governments who have been cooking up the perfect storm for a civil war for decades.

 

Wow. Could you/he possibly pack any more caricatures, stereotypes, Aunt Sallys and gross oversimplifications into one post?
It must be tremendously comforting having such a simplistic, one-eyed view of the world. Who needs nuance when you can just appeal to ignorant prejudice?

 

Don't think you've twigged that the article was a pisstake, yet could so easily become a reality, sorry that you never come across as having any sense of humour whatsoever....

 

Begum baby welcomed into the world, mother and son to live with Gary Linekar.......

 

You do realise that she's living in a camp surrounded by Isis members/sympathisers, some of whom have been shooting family members trying to leave. She's hardly likely to be openly slagging them off to the media.
But don't let complex realities get in the way of a simplistic narrative, eh?

 

Richard Littlejohn - a pisstake? Bullshit. It's exactly what he thinks. Pandering to lowest common denominator prejudice is what he does. And people who think the world is as simplistically one dimensional as they'd like it to be lap it up.
I have plenty of sense of humour thank you. But what you and I find funny are obviously very different.

 

Guess its a trait of the left to be humourless, never mind eh..?

 

If you think that piece of crap from Littlejohn was funny then I feel sorry for you.

 

Oh, so you're not overlooking the fact that she was even there in the first place then eh..?

 

Of course I'm not overlooking that. I'm not an idiot. Obviously it was a terrible, and very stupid, decision to go there. But she and her friends, all fifteen years old, were targeted and carefully groomed by persuasive older men who no doubt made them feel very special and sold them all kinds of wild fantasies about the paradise on earth they would experience there. Of course it was all nonsense, but they aren't the first and won't be the last impressionable teenage girls to be seduced by charismatic older men. It's very similar to the process that occurs with vulnerable young teenage girls who are made to feel special by older 'boyfriends' and then end up being forced into prostitution. I've seen how that works in my professional experience.

I'm not saying we should welcome her, or others like her, back with open arms. Obviously if she comes back she will have to face the consequences of her actions, which would include security service interrogation and likely prosecution and jail time. But it's complex. According to some experts in Islamic radicalisation, being ultra-tough by refusing to allow her back may play into the radicalisation narrative of evil western persecution of Islam and, perversely, actually create more radicalisation in future.
No easy answers here.
You think anyone who can see more than one side to it is just a bleeding heart liberal, but that's not the point. The point is that the world just isn't as simplistic as you authoritarian right wingers like to imagine. Tough actions sometimes produce the opposite of what you're trying to achieve. Look at that dickhead Gavin Williamson. Talking tough has just scuppered a lucrative trade deal with China.

 

This is setting an interesting precedent...

 

Good news, and well done the government for their quick reaction

No surprise that the Liberal and Labour parties have condemned the decision

 

But next time we want to deport someone after they have served their prison sentence what is to stop their home nation revoking their citizenship leaving them with us.

 

It is.
Making someone stateless is a first.

 

Where?

 

Bangladesh apparently.

 

BBC. Are saying she is entitled to Bangladesh citizenships rather than she has it. Not sure if it is something you need to claim.

It will end up in court.

Weird thing is her kid is still a British citizen so they can come back

 

She was born in Bangladesh

 

Are you sure ? Bangladesh or british,Father is Dutch and the baby was born in Syria,don't know the syrian laws on citizenship