I dont think this season will finish , Unless ....

We won’t get a vaccine for years. And if we do there is no way we will be first in line for it or footballers. It will be the vulnerable first and then the rest. I’d imagine then key workers. How long would it take to get through the population? Who administers the injections? It’s not gonna happen any time soon.

We live with it. We test and we find it and isolate the players if that’s what’s needed. But I think eventually we won’t be required to test everyone all the time. It will be surely people with symptoms go get a test?

 

I share your view that this season is going to be littered with postponement due to isolating players and clubs etc. There are far too many uncertainties and this is the reason I will not be renewing season ticket this year

 

Can’t remember where I read it but 1390 people have lost their lives to Covid, without a pre existing medical condition. There’s over 60 million people in this country. The death rate is beyond minuscule. I’d hazard a guess more people lose their life to the common flu each year, or certainly not significantly less, and life goes on. I’m no Covid denier but I think it’s been massively over played for a huge number of the general population who don’t have under lying health issues, even then the death rate is tiny.

 

Most people that die of fly each year have underlying conditions. If you are ignoring those for the COVID figure then you have to for flu too.

 

I saw an interview with Holloway the other day, who was saying they were about to sign Robinson last week but they have a Covid clause in their contracts now that states players wages will be reduced if the season gets postponed/abandoned again. Robinson refused to sign it and ended up at Vale instead because they don't have such a clause. Haven't heard of any other clubs having such a clause but clearly by having it, Grimsby are worried this season may not conclude.

 

If they are putting that on all their contracts I can not see anyone signing for them

 

I make it 1374 (Click on pre-existing conditions)

http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

I prefer to look at excess deaths. For the year to date, that is 53k.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending14august2020

Adjust for the rising deaths due to the WWII baby boomer demographic that would see an extra 21k die this year (14k for 2/3rds to Aug) compared to the 5-year average and excess deaths so far in 2020 are 39k. A moderate flu outbreak excess is about 15-20k and a severe flu outbreak is more like 40-50k (even more back in the 50s and 60s before better diet and vaccinations and with colder weather). So, excess deaths so far this year are approaching the level one might expect of a bad flu year.

 

We’ve known that since day dot thought haven’t we? That people who are healthy do not die from it in the main? but it’s how contagious it is that’s the issue. You pass it to someone who can’t fight it off And it hospitalises them and eventually they die. At that last point there, they are hospitalised is what we can’t afford to happen to too many. We know it doesn’t kill everybody

 

And that's bearing in mind all the restrictions which were put in place, imagine how bad it would have been otherwise

 

So people with pre-existing conditions don't count?? Even if they may have lived another 50 years? Obesity is a pre-existing condition, Marc Vivien Foe had a pre-existing condition... talk of pre-existing conditions is a red herring. Aleman is right, it's excess deaths we need to be looking at and it's very high

 

And that's deaths, not taking into account the long-term damage it could be causing which we don't know of yet

 

Its the people its passed on to that is the issue .
Flu doesn't even come close for how quick it spreads.
If you worked somewhere like I do and have seen how fast and how devastating it can be your views may change.
Ravaged my work and it was awful to see .

 

I think we'll get the season finished but there will no doubt be issues to overcome and I wouldn't back on finishing on time at all.

I really don't get the people who are trying to downplay the impact of it so far or minimise the disruption going forward.

 

Our players haven't got within 2m of the opposition for about three years so very little chance of them catching it during a match........

 

It WAS very high. It started off probably worse than bad flu as measured by excess deaths. It now seems to be running between normal flu and bad flu. Yorkshire has had 7 Covid deaths in the last 14 days from 1463 cases in the same 14 days a month prior. That's a mortality rate of 0.48% - about 3 times worse than normal seasonal flu. Now that is the upper limit which must be adjusted for how many people got infected - probably most without knowing it - and did NOT get tested. We don't know the number not being tested but the UK household infection survey's domestic sampling suggested about 2/3rds of those infected did not get picked up in Pillar 1+2 testing, though that is ongoing and will vary. That suggests a death rate of 0.16% on those Yorkshire figures - about the same as normal seasonal flu - but it's based on an assumption that could be well be off the mark. It could be higher or lower. We do know hospitals are very quiet with Covid cases, despite all the recent outbreaks. Just talk to anyone who works in them.

Flu would spread extremely quickly if probably 90% of the population did not already have immunity to most existing strains from previous exposures. The fact that most second waves of Covid are spreading much, much more slowly is very promising.

 

Wouldn't it be rather ironic if the older and vulnerable get theirs first, that's of course when we get brought back from Scotland .