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No I havent done any of the above, and I have no intention of doing so, but fair play to them. At least they are practising what they preach, unlike the left wing luvvies led by Emma Thomson over here. Lets see if they stick to their principles for life

I am not going to feel guilty though about driving to work to support my family

I am not going to feel guilty about boarding a plane a couple of times a year for a hard earned holiday in the sun, or visit family who dont live in the UK

I wont feel guilty about lighting and heating my home

 

But then some raging flag-shagging mouth frother would be on here giving the spiel about how kids are more interested in their Xbox than anything else. Can’t win mate.

 

What has she actually done?

 

She hasn’t told us one thing we don’t already know, the things ‘experts’ have been debating with each other for years yet suddenly this 16 year old ‘kid’ comes from nowhere and shes the new messiah. Publicity stunts on catamarans and speeches about ‘stealing her dreams’, give me a break. If she and whoever is really pulling her puppet strings wants to make a shred a difference, go take your roadshow to India and China because thats where the problems of the next generations lie. Let see if they will listen because i doubt it.

 

Ah, there it is, I knew it wouldn't be long.

It all sounds just like the whole Brexit argument again where one side claims the other side are "thick" and "racists" if they don't agree.

It's as predictable as it is laughable.

 

Why does she have to be groomed or manipulated by others? Can’t she have just read up on the issue and taken a stance on the matter?

Others are joining the cause now but nobody was talking about her being groomed this time last year when she was protesting outside the Swedish parliament on her own. Or when she pressured her mum to change careers so she didn’t fly as frequently. Who was “pulling her strings” then?

It’s sad that just because some people weren’t engaged with bigger issues than their social life at 16 doesn’t mean other people can’t have bigger thoughts/ideas/ambitions/passions at a young age.

 

The more I hear from her / about her the more impressed I am. People can disagree with what she says (personally I think she’s absolutely correct) but the number of adults going after her (a 16 year old) on a personal level (e.g. her persona, her diagnosis, her looks, etc.) is embarrassing.

 

I don't.

I genuinely cannot understand why you are so dismissive of concerns about the environment and the impact on human life.

How many millions, if not billions, were spent in this country to make changes and clean up after the impacts of heavy industry became clear? Poisoned rivers, thousands dying in London as a result of air pollution in the fifties and even the great floods in the Netherlands and Norfolk when it became clear that irrigation methods were endangering lives as examples close to home.

I've worked in India and seen the impact on people of unregulated activity. Smog where you can hardly breathe. People crawling around in fetid dumps, trying to find something of value to sell because they have nothing.

You could take a look at the work of the photographer Michael Wolf and his investigation of the lives and conditions of people who work in factories producing plastic toys. Stuff that gets thrown away almost immediately, but causes great hardship for those producing it in near, if not absolute, slavery.

Or you can pour scorn on people who want to change this.

 

Wonder what she will do when the spot light drifts off her, back to school and catch up on the last 12 months?

 

She needs to get herself an Xbox or Nintendo Switch.

 

Or the fact that it uses electricity

 

She'll never down a pint, stood on her head after a 16 hour sesh with her mates in Malia.

Regardless of the message, she's still losing.

 

Brilliant post Simon.

If Miss Thunberg read that, she wouldnt have a clue what you were on about

Whoever is pulling her strings should be ashamed of themselves, using a child like this.

By the way, did she row across the Atlantic to get to New York?

 

It's not about telling us stuff we don't already know. That's the point - apart from a few crackpot mavericks, scientists have been telling us the realities for decades but we've complacently done very little about it. What Greta has done is to help galvanise youth to start shaming governments into doing something. It may not work but it's a start. And I think that climate change is going to keep getting bigger as a political issue due to pressure from young people.
We've come through a period of political youth apathy in the era of Thatcher and Reagan's children. All the signs are that that is changing and I welcome it.
I take your point about India and China. But the West can't get sanctimonious with them unless it gets its own house in order. We spent a hundred industrial years burning fossil fuels and exploiting the non-industrial world's resources to achieve global economic domination. Now that they are playing catch-up we can't expect them to behave ecologically responsibly unless we do too.

 

Right or wrong she is a pain in the arse,

 

Absolutely 100% correct. Great post WB

 

No, it's fundamentally different.
Brexit is clearly a political/economic issue where whichever side you are on is a matter of personal political opinion. I fundamentally disagree with Brexiteers but I accept their right to have a different opinion from mine.

Climate change is a fact. It's happening and every credible scientist on the planet accepts this and knows that massive change is required. Believing that climate change isn't happening, or isn't a problem or isn't exacerbated by human activity is ridiculous. It's like believing that the earth is flat.

 

I didnt realise she had Aspergers, which actually makes the people pulling her strings, even more shameful for exploiting her like this