Fan Ownership

He had no chance of getting one with us. Gave us the biggest laugh of the day yesterday at Oldham when we heard he had scored.

 

As a club, you seem to be mirroring us when we ended up here a couple of seasons ago. What kept me going, and it does apply to you, is that it is inevitable that you’ll be back on the up soon. It’s almost impossible for a good club with history to wither on the vine. Maybe not this season with Bowyer. We had to go through Flitcroft and Phil Brown before we happened upon Wellens. He’s been the catalyst for the turnaround - and surprisingly backed by Power.

 

Forget it. It's hard for a club in good circumstances to do and our circumstances make it nigh on impossible.

A typical League 2 club owner puts in about £200k per year to cover losses. We have a stadium to rent. So you need to raise £10m - maybe less - to buy the club - and then keep pumping £300-500k in each year (assuming some rent is covered by our extra ticket sales - for now). Will you find 1000 shareholders to put in £10k each - maybe less - to buy the club ... and then pump in another £300-500 each year just to tread water in League 2. How many would invest that only to be asked for more each season to cover losses. If we should manage to get promoted to League 1, each might need to pump in £600-800 per year to cover a typical £500k loss plus stadium rent. This is why there are no fan owned clubs at high levels. They are rich mens' playthings. What Wombles fans have achieved is amazing. They must keep their costs down by an extraordinary amount of voluntary work.

 

It depends mate. You have to react quickly to things. Bowyer is still here and that highlights how weak the club is at the moment.

Power has never been a shy man. We have Rupp and Rhodes that don't want to face up to things so hired a yes man in Ryan Sparks. A pointless hire!

Also correct me if I am wrong but while you had flitcroft and brown etc Power was doing things off the pitch to move the club forward?

You hired Jewell a football man.

Wellens is a young manger with a plan.

Power, Jewell and Wellens is the perfect team.

You say it's inevitable that we will go back up, I disagree mate because we have no plan and teams are overtaking us and have money. Salford will improve, Bolton will be a force next season, Crewe/Exeter/Plymouth the team that don't go up will be up there. Mansfield will improve.

Bradford City are a dying club currently it's hanging it's hat on the grave.

 

I can’t pretend to know the ins and outs of how your club works at the moment, but to suggest it’s dying is a bit strong. This is our third season down here and it took that long to work out what’s actually needed to get out of it again.

I would suggest, though, that Bowyer isn’t the answer.

 

Fan ownership is for Non-League or maybe Div. 4 clubs. There simply isn't the funding available under the type of ownership to move any further.

Dead duck.

Close this thread down.

 

If we had ten or so wealthy fans, it might be possible...

But you'd be looking for ten people like Lawn, Gibb, Rhodes, etc, and you'd be looking for them to, you know, get along.

 

You’ll struggle to get 10k people paying £150 for a season ticket. How the feck will you get 10,000 people to pay £1000 each and then another £500 a year on top of their season ticket to fund the unrealistic signings they expect.

 

We'll struggle to get 10k season ticket sales because of Bowyer and rightly so. Waste of money renewing at this moment.

 

£250k crowdfunded to pay for a PR agency to promote city on behalf of fans to wealthy buyers. Thats doable...

 

If I have a couple of grand spare, I’m spending it on a holiday, a guitar, a bike something I enjoy. There’s no way I’m throwing it at a load of shite footballers to play in a decaying stadium with zero chance of getting it back. I’d rather spend spend it in Vegas, at least it’s warm and I’m enjoying myself.
Investment implies the possibility a return. Buying and funding a league two football club is throwing good money after bad.