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Most liked posts in thread: England - Jesse Lingard

  1. SimonW

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    Except if you had actually watched the match you would know the goal was scored before Lingard came on and with Mata in his place, there were some major problems. Mata, while he is great at picking a ball, he lacks mobility and it meant Rashford didn't have spaces to attack. Rashford ended up being the one dropping deep, moving into channels to try and create space but Mata can't get up with the play, Pereira lacks the pace of Martial so we only had James who isn't natural coming narrow to lead the line. And without Lingard's willingness and ability to get back Pogba also couldn't commit forward (Which is why Pogba along with Lindelof were the worst players on the pitch. How people rate Lindelof I don't know, I mean wow he can pass a ball but his positioning is shocking and always has been, he can't read the English game one bit)

    When Lingard came on it actually helped in those areas until the sending off, the sending off saw them drop deep and refuse to really get out of their structure. That's actually when you need a Mata more than a Lingard as a team sitting deep and rigid needs short clever passes not movement to unlock them
     
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  2. ConnecticutBantam

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    He shouldn't be in the England squad. If he was at arguably any team other than United he would be nowhere near. Only gets a sniff because of how poor united are.
     
  3. Sergio Pinto III

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    Care to revisit this?

    Finally the penny has dropped. Southgate doesn't deem him good enough.
     
  4. Sergio Pinto III

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    Thank god Southgate looking elsewhere.

    Sterling and Sancho streets ahead of him. Rashford is another wide option. Plus Hudson-Odoi is back playing. Mount, Maddison, etc ahead of him in AM role too.

    Lingard down the pecking order and rightly so.
     
  5. NorthernMonkey

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    Did Jared Bowen get selected in his place?

    I'd say we were both wrong but Bowen isn't even playing PL football yet, never mind getting close to matching Lingards number of caps so what's your point?
     
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    :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:
     
  7. Sergio Pinto III

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    I think the joke was lost on you...
     
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    There's no joke, you really did say Jarred Bowen was a better pick for England than Lingard :poop::poop::joy::joy:
     
  9. Sergio Pinto III

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    Yep. One has proven time and time again how poor he is. The fact id have a Championship player over him says it all on how bad I think he is.

    I never said Bowen should get a call up though. There are plenty ahead of him too, thats what was lost on you. His time could come eventually though.

    Bowen will be in the PL next term. A fine Championship player (with 22 goals last term) just like Abraham, Mount and others before him in the England squad.

    The fact is Lingard is no longer in the squad. I was right he should lose his place. Playing for a big club shouldn't warrant a call up. Sad you think so. Typical sky sports football fan.
     
  10. NorthernMonkey

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    Plenty of players ahead of Bowen yet you couldn't give another example as an alternative for Lingard? Until now of course when they've already been selected.

    Hindsight eh? It's a beautiful thing.
     
  11. Bronco

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    Well win this game with a quick counter attack ;).
     
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    I have seen milk turn faster than England tonight. They are so pedestrian, no intensity whatsover. Turgid stuff tonight so far
     
  13. Bronco

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    Sterling should have put that one on one with the keeper away , game over.
     
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    That was Sunday league defending, but your correct over the 90 minutes CZE were the better team.
     
  15. Storck

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    Can not believe it was a decade since England last lost a qualifier
     
    #39 Storck, Oct 11, 2019
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  16. Stafford Bantam

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    And that's the warning for City tomorrow, being the better team on paper doesn't count for much if you don't put in the hard work.
     
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  17. Storck

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    Who?
     
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    Watching as a neutral, the Czechs deserved it, they had some right characters and played maybe as well as they could? England were poor for this match but nothing much changes in the way of things...............
     
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    Agree about Moore & Beckenbauer, but they were truly exceptional.
     
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    Feel for Declan Rice, not his fault but another player the British Press have completely blown out of of proportion. Competent but not sure what he does well to get the plaudits he has. Looks a better defender than a midfielder.
     
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