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  1. Rogered Tart

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    I'd take my lad upto the bonfire night shows they had on, the crowds capped at 10,000 if i remember. As a multi use stadium Odsal becomes viable but like any stadium these days if you are only using it once every two weeks then there is only one ending to the story.
     
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  2. Ulysses S Grant

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    Looks like I'm confusing my knowledge of wills with trusts. It's witnesses that can't be beneficiaries (in wills) not trustees who can't be beneficiaries (in trustss). Still it clarifies that the owner is FLPF, which presumable was/ is for the benefit of all FL employees and not just the Gibb family, other wise it would probably be called the Gibb Family Pension Fund.

    I suppose that this also makes the assumption that the FLPF is the one that GG would benefit from and that he and his family don't actually have a separate pension fund, which is quite possible.

    As a trustee, GG would then have had a major say in it, but he would still need the approval of the other trustees (assuming he isn't the sole trustee, which I doubt).

    Either way, I stand by my view that GG has absolutely nothing to be admonished for in this, his agreement to buy VP stopped liquidation and the terms were fully agreed by the BCAFC board at the time. No=one forced him to do, forced the club to do it and no-one was held to ransom over the terms. As such Gordon Gibb should always been credited with his actions in saving Bradford City.
     
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  3. Ulysses S Grant

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    Odsal is not, and never will be suitable for football. Too far from the pitch, the corners need to be lifted and replaced to allow for stock cars & speedway (both of which could be back by the end of 2021) and the exposed site means the potential for a high number of postponements unless under soil heating and effective year round covers are in place.

    Parking isn't great, VP isn't ideal but Odsal is worse, and it has very little potential to benefit the City as a whole with no real availability of drinking establishments. All Odsal has to offer is fast transport links via the M606 for away fans.

    If we were to move, and I don't want us to but if we had to then so be it, there are two better sites available.

    1. The large swathe of land behind Wickes and Seabrooks below Princeville Terrace. Not ideal for the drinking side of things, but that could be improved with a fan zone
    2. The former gasworks sandwiched between Thornton Road and Listerhills Road (currently used as a car park) Nearer town for easier access and would require the buildings up to Water Street demolishing.

    The ideal location has gone and would have been Nelson Street where they built Trafalgar House Police Station and the new school. Failing that, and this would never happen because BMDC have no foresight, when John Street Market closes and moves to Darley Street, the land earmarked for an urban village (that will be probably mainly social housing and a slum inside 10 years) would be ideal by pulling that, Morrisons, Bradford Brwery and the market building behind it down.

    A central location like that could also double as an outside concert / events venue and be used on many more occassions than match days.
     
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  4. borderlescott

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    Forgot to add, Q Gardens is another pub right on the door step for Odsal. Chapel House is close enough in Low Moor too, you just nip through the snicket near the shop, up through the cricket club, and can walk to Odsal.

    Back to the original point, it would take quite a bit of investment to drag Odsal up to a standard football fans would deem acceptable, but the location is superb for a sports stadium. Not far from the Low Moor station now that has been reopened and obviously close to the M606. If it could handle 20k fans when Bulls were in their pomp in 2000 or whenever, sure it could cope with the demands. But no one is ready to dip their hands in their pockets are they. Bradford Council have no ambition.
     
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  5. Idlebantam

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    Never get the notion that Odsal in ideal location for transport links being close to the motorway. That might be so for away fans, but not, I would guess, for majority of the fans that matter who would go 23 times a year

    I think the time spent watching City there in the 80's has left a long lasting mental scar on me that will never heal, no matter what anyone says!
     
  6. Offcomedun

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    And even less money. The council's budget was slashed by over a third during Osborne's austerity reign of terror and that was before Covid hit revenues in all sorts of ways. Basic services have had to be cut left, right and centre.
    The idea of the council borrowing millions that it doesn't have to finance a stadium for a club owned by a man worth £100m+ is pie in the sky, and rightly so in current economic circumstances.
     
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  7. trevor

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    If only the Council had given City all those millions spent and wasted on the Bulls
     
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    He`s full of Bullshit, that's how he got Rupp to Bankroll him. People like him just jump on the backs of others so they can carry him.
     
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    He must be well brassed off in his Baildon bunker (assuming that’s where he lives as others have suggested) knowing the club is back on the up and getting behind those in charge again.

    Knowing his personality though, he’ll probably look at the director of recruitment and coaching model and take credit for it!
     
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  11. Ulysses S Grant

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    I saw him recently, he was delivering an ASOS parcel that my daughter had ordered.
     
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    He’s right in the fact that blaming relegation on him was absurd. We have proven in just January that you can turn things around with some smart decisions and decent recruitment. That didn’t happen after Edin left.
     
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  13. Ulysses S Grant

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    He is clearly one of, if not the, most deluded men in the entire history of deluded men. An absolute first class W Anchor
     
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  14. bantamdave41

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    Edin is a complete muppet but he is 50 per cent to blame. The other is still at the helm and as such, has seen us slump to 18th in the khazi league.

    But of course that seems to be overlooked time and time again. This club has so far to go to just return to level ofthe summer of 2016.
    We might be looking at may 2022 just to return to league 1. Key word, might. Then we have to become a credible contender for league 1 promotion....

    6 years of Rupp progression:relieved:

    Rupp out.
     
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  15. XCIV_Bantam

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    Nah the guy infected the club with poor players on long contracts with high wages. Then he is shocked the club suffered relegation?? We couldn’t afford anyone!
     
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    Yet players on relative high wages such as Doyle and Vaughan did not turn around our fortunes? Does Edin get blamed for this?
     
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  17. borderlescott

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    I think everything was destined for failure under him, personally. He created a toxic culture in the club, destroyed relationships within and outside of the club. The problems would have seeped onto the field and the team was doomed from the outset.

    The players didnt seem to perform for Collins and Drury and so the fans never got them onside, whereas with Trueman and Sellars, we saw an instant up lift. The players bought into their ideas and the fans respected them as they’ve picked up results while caretakers/interim.

    There was too much anger RE the Collins and Drury appointments for the fans to ever get behind them IMO
     
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  18. Sheffield Bantam

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    Not even going to read the report. Not worth any of our time or effort.
     
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  19. Captain Grumpy

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    When did City ever have an owner like that? Certainly not Rhodes and Lawn who if they were still in charge would be bricking it big time now with the pandemic and no cup runs since 2015. Certainly they wouldn’t have sanctioned a player budget this season which apparently is well in excess of 2 million. They certainly wouldn’t have given an interest free loan of over 1 million as Rupp has. You could say Richmond was the only chairman who took a measured risk but he just used other people’s money and bankrupt the club. The best we can ever get regarding a takeover is a local consortium which I assume the Rupp haters want, but we’ll just plod on in the lower divisions relying on cup runs. Don’t forget Lawn made no secret of the fact we couldn’t afford to play in the Championship while him and Rhodes were there.
     
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  20. Rogered Tart

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    He is chief antagoniser in all this but there were a fair few people who knew what was going on but chose to try and get others to do their dirty work.
     
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