It bothers me as its the populist type of politics we now see over here, where duping and lying to the electorate is acceptable and theres no accountability. But thats America people say. Rest assured those behind the scenes running things have exported across the Atlantic. There is no reason why Farage and Banks should be so pally. Then there is the rise of the nationalistic tone and divide and conquer into left and right. Its splitting societies apart. So in my eyes this coming election is crucial to the direction the world will head. Sorry bit deep for a football forum
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Edin Nowhere Impact SubP.L.22/23 EntrantYungNath, Jayteebee, Frank Castle and 1 other person like this.
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It's perfectly obvious that the man is a total charlatan. He claims to be a self-made 'master of the deal' but he's been living on credit, tax dodges and bailouts all his life. His dad funded all his early business deals and his profligate lifestyle and bailed him out of millions of dollars of debt. He inherited multi millions and yet has declared bankruptcy several times, leaving creditors in ruins. He's a useless businessman and a crook to boot.
But, his faithful supporters will forgive him anything - sexual abuse; blatant lies; overt racism; collusion with foreign governments (amounting to treason) for personal gain; and wholesale tax fraud - as long as he resists gun control, scapegoats immigrants and rolls back abortion rights. Many of them see any form of taxation as tantamount to evil so will actually applaud his success at evading it for so long.
The only hope is that enough swing voters will be horrified and motivated to vote against him.
I think it's going to get very messy. If he loses he's going to refuse to concede and falsely claim that postal voting is fraudulent. He'll drag the process out through the Supreme Court, which he has packed with ultra conservative judges who'll support him as far as they possibly can. -
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Had we been staying in the EU then the two EU directives on tax avoidance (ATAD and ATAD II) would have applied to us and would have closed many of the loopholes and devices used by wealthy individuals to avoid paying UK tax. Of course now we are leaving the EU, those directives won't apply in the UK. It makes me wonder how many of those whose companies have complx ownership or domicile structures designed with one purpose in mind - to hide wealth in UK tax havens beyond sight of HMRC. Step forward the likes of Tim Martin, Richard Branson, James Ratcliffe, John Moulson, Philip Green, James Dyson and many others who have that kind of wealth. I wonder how they campaigned on Brexit to avoid becoming subject to the ATADs?YungNath and Interested Bystander like this. -
Whatever the situation with Trump and his taxes he will make sure it is legal, Tax crime in the USA is a major offence and very long prison sentences are given for it,
When the tax evasion details from Liechtenstein were given to the USA and UK tax authorities the USA said if proved they would go to jail for a very long time, HMRC said if UK citizens were proved to have evaded tax they would be sent a very strong letter,YungNath and Interested Bystander like this. -
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Together with the original ATAD, it would have brought a lot of what some refer to as 'aggressive' tax avoidance to an abrupt end within the UK. I bet some of those on my earlier list are very pleased that those directives will now never be implemented in the UK. They'll be laughing all the way to their overseas banks!Interested Bystander likes this. -
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On a lighter note, I don't see why he should be so worried about voter fraud. After all, given that he is so sure it exists, surely it shouldn't be beyond him, stable genius that he is, to make sure it works in his favour?
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It’s funny the anti Trump agenda at home. I wouldn’t vote for him - far from it. But I don’t really get why it bothers people so much. As people have alluded to practically all the rich evade paying tax. EU or no EU it will go on. Tale as old as time.
He’ll win again this time around. I think before covid he would’ve won be a landslide. I think it will be close now, but trump will win. Democrat party in a huge mess when the best they can put forward is Biden - bloke is nearly 80 - genuinely doesn’t look well.Bronco likes this. -
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Even here in 2019, the Conservative party polled 43.6% of the popular vote yet won 56% of the seats. The share of the popuIar vote and the share of the seats were completely inverted. But I don't hear many people discussing that when democracy is ever discussed. It shows the limitations of the FPTP system in a modern multi-party election
But some pollsters are a little more sophisticated than just looking at the aggregate of X or Y votes.Stafford Bantam likes this.
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