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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Storck

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    who would replace him? Can not imagine any of them wanting the job currently. They will want to wait 12 months for the rest of Covid to blow over
     
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    Can Carrie pop out another kid on demand?
     
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    People are talking about Liz Truss & Michael Gove ffs. The list of people to replace him are a disaster list.

    I'd accept Mark Harper for this Covid stance, he can see through this Covid shitshow and actively questions restrictions which show absolutely no tangible benefit to fighting Covid. But beyond that god knows what his stance is on anything else. We might end up with Desmond Swayne as a minister if that happened.
     
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    They are laughing at us right now, mocking us while they go from fck up to fck up. They control the police, you must conform or the state will shut down your business or take away your liberties. Us at the top table? Light our cigars and drink our pims while you plebs can't even go to loved ones funerals unless it's to our satisfaction. Anyone who votes Tory next time out is complicit in this utter shitshow.
     
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  5. JonButterfield

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    Yes, Truss and Gove are candidates, but according to the betting odds (and as City fans, we know they're almost always right), Sunak is the 2-1 favourite.

    Apparently a recent poll of the Tory party found that almost half of it's members felt Sunak 'would make a better party leader than Boris'.

    Sunak is about the only person that has come out of Johnson's reign with any credibility, largely because he has been able to hold the pursestrings at a time when people and businesses have really needed support. Probably just luck of the draw, but he does have support.
     
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    Lets just read that again. Almost half of it's members felt Sunak would make a better party leader than Boris.

    Does that mean the other half actually think Boris would make a better leader than Sunak, or did they mishear the questions and thought they said would hold a better party?
     
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  7. Aaron Baker

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    There will be a time when Sunak eventually pushes Johnson out I'm just not sure they want to do it when they're still in the middle of the issues. If you're going to have a new broom you want it to sweep everything clean.

    Sunak has had an 'easier' job so far to be honest. Everyone loves a chancellor who is giving stuff away for free, he'll want to make his move when it comes time to start recouping it all.

    As long as it isn't Liz Truss!!
     
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    https://news.sky.com/story/nearly-half-of-conservative-members-think-rishi-sunak-would-make-better-party-leader-than-boris-johnson-poll-12512455

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    Bizarrely, only a third thought Boris should step down.

    A THIRD!
     
  9. Storck

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    It will be someone from the cabinet or just left so can not see it being Harper
     
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    There is a couple of issues. I don't think Sunak will want to take over currently plus a section of the Tory party will have issues with having Sunak as their leader
     
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    I'm not surprised. Quite a lot of the fuss and noise comes from people who aren't traditional Conservative voters. They're just loud with it.

    A 80 seat majority, standing up against restrictions in a true Conservative way and the ability to continually overcome media storms buys you a bit of loyalty from within the party I would think.

    It will wane over time though. They just won't want to throw him completely under the bus and make him a pariah. His personality is still populR in a celebrity kind of way and you don't want him becoming the equivalent of a Corbyn style lovable outcast who divides the party.
     
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    As if I wasn't annoyed enough already, yesterday when he was being asked direct questions about this latest party and all he did was laugh and smirk and say we'll have to wait for the outcome of the investigation o_O
     
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    Sunak has been popular because he's dished out funding during the pandemic - but he's done it through gritted teeth. He is a dyed in the wool Child of Thatcher. If he gets to be in charge we'll have more years of austerity and 'small government' nonsense at a time when the economy desperately needs reflating, poverty is soaring, transport needs sorting, green investment is essential etc etc. We can all kiss goodbye to what's left of the 'levelling up' of the north if he's running the show.
    You also have to wonder whether large parts of the Tory shire vote is ready for a brown-skinned party leader. There are quite a few Tory seats vulnerable to the Lib Dems and, appalling though it is, I think an Asian party leader could be a tipping point for many discontented white Tory voters in the affluent south.
     
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    Don't! You'll get me all giddy with all this talk of small government. :joy:

    I suppose we could just keep printing money forever and be damned with inflation though? The utopia of everything being free and easy just right around the corner!

    And the race thing would be even funnier. The supposed party of racism and misogyny having the only 2 female leaders and then a 'brown' prime minister (alongside a brown and female Home Secretary) would probably through the woke world off it's axis. Nobody would know whether they were coming or going! Sounds like all the more reason to hope it happens.
     
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    Inflation is happening because of cost push, not demand pull. Deflating the economy with austerity when the economy is stagnating and costs are going up is a recipe for stagflation. Of course you can't keep borrowing forever, but it's a question of timing and with all the downward economic pressures currently stacking up this is definitely the wrong time to be making more cuts to balance the books. You borrow to get out of recession and repay the debt when times are good, as the Blair government did when it repaid billions of government debt.
    And the assumption that cutting back leads to less debt is massively flawed, as this demonstrates:
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    I hope you're correct that the race thing is not an issue with many Tory voters. I doubt it though.
     
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    Skin colour/race thing for me would be the same be it political leaders or footballers, if they're competent and good enough bring 'em on....
     
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    Absolutely correct - it's just pure coincidence that inflation (mainly seen as the economic downside to sosalist money printing solutions) has followed the biggest programme of socalist money printing and spending across the entire Western world. Absolutely no link whatsoever, completely unrelated.

    As for debt I completely agree that's the way it should happen. Hopefully the good times that allows us to repay the current debt of *checks notes* £2,223 billion.....are right around the corner.

    Oh and race will always be a problem for some people but that shouldn't factor into the thinking if it's the right person for a job. Hopefully the Conservative party can break that glass ceiling for a person of colour in the same way that they did for women.
     
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    Are the figures from the fake twitter account correct? Also why haven't the owner of the account compared all the time Tories have been in power to compare to the figure from Labour, or is that because that wouldn't fit with their narrative?
     
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    Sturgeon has announced fans can return to stadiums from Monday. There is a full list of SPL games next midweek.

    It seems like Sturgeon has left Drakeford out there on his own, who was attacking England's stance on restrictions over the media on Sunday.

    So either Drakeford backs down and looks an idiot, or he pushes on with restrictions and looks an idiot. It's safe to say whatever he does now after his political stance to attack English restrictions he is going to look an idiot. It's just how much damage the idiot will do.
     
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    he'd be best off releasing the restrictions today and get the news out under the cover of the garden party.

    Or wait a couple of weeks until the next one is revealed! :joy:
     
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