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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Edin Nowhere

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    Hospital figures always lag by a few weeks.
     
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    so they should keep going up for another week or so, this will still put pressure on the government to act
     
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    They're approved and clearly have a positive effect in reducing how ill the vaccinated get with COVID. The benefits for a lot of people are clear to see. The concerns for younger, healthier people are still there though too, highlighted recently in Germany with Kimmich's comments.
     
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    And a number of German virologists and doctors have exaplained why he is wrong
     
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    He's not wrong though is he? It's his opinion and his concerns are valid ones. The data simply doesn't exist yet and won't do for some time. If he choses not to get it because of his concerns how can he be wrong?

    Virologists and scientists can say they believe it to be safe and there will be no long term side effects but without concrete data, there will always be people who will be concerned.
     
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    Trial/Experimental vaccine call it what you want , There is too many issues going on. Today I have heard 3 nurses have died recently from the same ward in a Scotland hospital. It seems all 3 may have been vaccinated recently but I am trying to find out more as it seems the hospital in question and family members have been told not to say anything. If the events turnout to be true then alot of questions need answering. I am hoping it's BS.
     
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    First of all I hope your daughter has a speedy recovery but I would like to know where they got that figure of 90% plus unvaccinated from as it's not what I have been hearing.
     
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    How come Australia are allowing Tennis players to play in the Australian open vaccinated or not yet no one in the country is allowed to move around freely.

    Clearly another way that depending on whether you are a elite person or an average Joe you can do has you please.
     
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    I call it a vaccine. It is you that started with EXPERIMENTAL, always in capitals, until I asked why you called it that and you said it was due to the manufacturers having no liability. You then changed to trial after I gave you a list of other vaccines that also fitted your definition of EXPERIMENTAL
     
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    They were correcting some of the things he had said about it, rather than his opinions
     
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    Thanks-yes she is actually feeling a whole lot better.

    As to the figures-it was someone on Radio 2 so no idea of the source. Did seem somewhat extreme to me as I said.
     
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    Did anyone hear the cardiologist on Jeremy Vine last week saying there is early data that shows 'cardiac incidents' in teens looks to have jumped by about 300% in recent months?
     
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    no, when was it? Would be interesting to see the figures involved.
     
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    It was the middle of last week. A lad at work always has the radio on and I heard a few minutes of it. I think the doctor had linked the increase with the time of giving the jab to 12-15 year olds and Vine was arguing that it was more likely the lack of exercise these kids had done during lockdown. Typical JV stuff really. As you say, would be interesting to see some actual figures.
     
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    just googled looking for it and nothing at all, even just looking for teen cardiac incidents. 300% could be from 1 to 3 though
     
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    When will there be an independent inquiry into one of if not the biggest theft of tax payers money this country has ever seen in the track and trace fiasco?
    I won't hold my breath as Westminster and its hangers on seem to have immunity from prosecution in most cases.
     
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    Could they be cardiac incidents with regards taking other substances, another frightener from the anti vaccine brigade.
     
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    Such as?

    I must be one of the people sat in the middle of all these. Are you pro vaxx or anti vaxx? I'm neither I'm free choice. Do what is best for you and don't force others to do something they aren't comfortable with or have reservations about. By all means push the benefits as you see fit but don't dismiss everything out of hand as anti vaxx.

    Example, anyone who even scratches at the surface of a vaccine passport sees it fall to pieces at the first hurdle, infact the government have been sat on a report that tells them it would cost the economy £2bn and covid would still spread as transmission is rampant in groups of people who aren't even picked up via a vaccine passport.
     
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    Substances that are taken were told by many of our younger generation end to have a good time, like this comment : https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/another-u-turn.5548/page-3#post-559337
    You know my stance on this I believe everyone should have had the jab, I've quoted it many times, of course even jabbed up is no guarantee you won't catch it that was never the case it was always about if you did get Covid it could save you from having to be hospitalised and take a load off the NHS.
    After getting my 2 jabs and a booster I have felt far more confident about getting back to normality and will continue to do so.
    With regards vaccine passports, as a society we have been going about our near normal business since the restrictions/lockdown were lifted and although the figures with regards catching the virus and deaths from the virus have gone up since pre lockdown recent figures suggest hospitalisation and deaths are on the decline and that for me is why IMO vaccine passports should not be required, but if that is how the government want to go the decision I made should allow me to continue my life style.
     
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    Keir Starmer is not doing PMQs today because he has caught Covid. It's strange seeing as he sits on the side of Westminster where they all wear masks.
     
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