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I'm not really bothered what they turned up in. It was the fact they felt the need to turn up to check up on a 12 year old girl.

 

Imagine a similar story in 2018, reported from say North Korea. Our public would have been aghast and thinking 'thank God we don't live in a country where 12 year olds are visited by the police when told by the government not to leave their home'.

 

Like I say. I'm not surprised, I have no sympathy with the woman or her kid.

I'm just delighted the coppers have the resource.

 

If you think this is a proportionate approach on the basis that the parent was not happy to pass to the phone to a 12 year old to speak with someone claiming to be from NHS Test and Trace wanting details from her and not confirming what would happen with this info then for the police to turn up and not tell the parents why they would like to speak to their 12 year old then to be honest it's no surprise many people are willing to throw others under the bus with vaccine passports and wear masks forever. How do you even know it was NHS Test and Trace on the phone in the first instance or do you just tell anyone who rings any info they ask from you?


Her mother said a member of staff from NHS Test and Trace rang on July 5 asking to speak to Charlotte.

'They said they wanted to speak to her,' said Mrs Crook.

'When I asked them if the data provided would be anonymous they said they could not guarantee her details would not be passed on to contacts.

'At this point, I said I did not consent to her data being used as she is only 12 and a minor.'

On Sunday, officers from Greater Manchester Police arrived at the Crook family home in Middleton and asked to speak directly to Charlotte.

'They would not tell me and my husband why they wanted to speak to my daughter,' Mrs Crook, 45, said yesterday.

'I suggested that she was only 12 and as her mother, I should be the one they should speak to.

'My daughter by this time was stood behind me, crouching, thinking she had done something wrong and was petrified.'

She claimed the officer 'shouted' to Charlotte to check she was isolating.

The following day the family tried to find out what had happened and contacted their Tory MP Chris Clarkson – only for officers to return at 9pm.

'It was the police again, this time in a riot van and coming to 'check' again that my daughter was isolating,' said Mrs Crook.

 

A perfect illustration of why this and many other countries are f*****d and how much of the population has been indoctrinated into facilitating our fate.

 

A great demonstration of how our national media is waging a propaganda campaign of fear built on inaccurate messages, hyperbole and false context.

 

the same parent who said she didn’t want it taking any further as she had sorted it with GMP but then went to the press.

 

So she is the villain in all this, for highlighting to the press the complete over reaction of not sending the police once, but twice to ensure a 12 year old school girl who was doing what was asked of her isn't "endangering lives" (whilst on the same Sunday in Manchester thousands of football fans were likely ramming every bar in Manchester regardless of covid status).

So, do you just tell anyone who rings you up anything they ask?

 

Yep because how busy and over stretched a hospital is is only worked out by how many people die.

 

If I’m isolating I would be expecting a call from Test & Trace so it isn’t just someone ringing out of the blue.

 

not much of a headline is it, Police check that child is isolating after parents refuse to cooperate with Track and Trace

 

We clearly have different opinions of what is a proportional response for refusing to speak to someone when they wouldn't give a clear answer to a simple question asked of them, such as what will happen to the data provided.

It really makes me sleep easier at night know this kind of tough action is being taken.

 

I wish tougher action had been done from the start and we might not be now dealing with the amount of deaths etc from the past 18months

 

But thats not the only data point is it? It includes data on covid admissions and ICU utilisation

Here are more data points:
Number of UK hospitals = 1257
Number of hospitalised patients testing positive with Covid = 3,786
Number on ventilators = 545

Approx 3 Covid positive patients per hospital on average and less than 0.5 being ventilated on average. If the NHS can't cope with that, it isn't fit for purpose and we need to look far away from public lockdowns to protect it.

Healthcare in the UK | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)

Here's another one:

Gary Neville on Twitter: "Talking to a medical lead in Bolton yesterday. There are 28000 people on waiting lists . Just in Bolton!!! She said it would take years to clear the backlog. This government have starved the NHS for 11 years and millions of people in this country are now paying the price ." / Twitter

 

Tougher action such as blatantly ignoring lockdown would have been useful, however this is not the kind of behaviour that needs cracking down on.

 

Meanwhile, in New Zealand, their Prime Minister has told her citizens to accept information from the Government as the 'sole source of the truth'.

In France, after promising its Citizens in April that 'vaccine passports will never be used to divide the French people', Macron is now introducing vaccine passports that will be enshrined in law, including the possibility of prison sentences of up to 6 months if you're caught in a restaurant without proof of vaccination, or a year if you're the restaurant owner allowing such things.

All is well.

If we're to learn lessons from history - which is predominantly what history is there to do, lets remind ourselves of a question asked of Herman Goerring at the Nuremburg trials. When asked 'how did you convince the German people to do these things', his answer:

'It was easy and nothing to do with Nazism. The only thing a government needs to turn its people into slaves is fear. If you can find something to scare them, you can make them do anything you want'.

Don't worry though, its all a conspiracy theory.

 

And still they keep coming - the false equivalents.

Fear of Jews, blacks, gays, disabled people etc, as used by the Nazis, was manufactured nonsense. Covid by contrast, is real and causes serious injury and death to many people.

 

how many of those hospitals have ICU wards?

 

I'm not sure, but a quick Google search shows we have 6500 ICU beds in the country. So less than 10% taken by COVID. That's nowhere near stretched to breaking point.

A key point however is that the UK has one of the lowest rates of ICU beds per Capita in first world countries. So maybe people need to look at the chronic under investment and pillaging of the NHS by the government and ask why we wouldn't put more money into instead of throwing ridiculous sums at an economy thats been forced to crash by locking people down.

I've said it before - the NHS exists to protect the public , not the other way around. And the Governments job is to give the NHS the resources to do its job adequately

 

If ICU beds usually run at almost capacity and extra 10% needing beds will put it to stretching point. I have friends that work BRI ICU, or whatever it is called now, and they were usually full most of the time pre Covid. Yes investment hasn’t been there but that doesn’t effect the fact that currently they are stretched to breaking point. Yes not many people are dieing but that doesn’t mean hospitals are not near breaking?