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Bowyer & Rhodes ???

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BSABantam74, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. BoingBoing

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    Agree about the risk and said so in my reply. But my point stands; Devine is no defender and if he was our back-up, knowing the problems we’ve had with Mellor’s fitness, I’d be a VERY worried man next season
     
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  2. Fordy117

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    Mate I would be.

    I don't think Devine is good enough for Bradford City in any position at any level but he will be here next season because the lad seems to have no drive and will stay here but to be fair Bowyer did say he liked him.
     
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  3. Bronco

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    He did start off very well and recently his performances have not been great, I'm quoting what we have seen of him when on his game has been IMO a level above his team mates, of course he needs to produce that level consistantly which I believe he would with better players aronund him than he presently has.
     
  4. BoingBoing

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    Sorry Trevor but I just don’t agree.

    Evans likes players that have a nasty streak and a lot of fight in them. He likes his teams full of power and strength, with a targetman up front.

    Now, how the hell does he mould this lot into an Evans squad, knowing he has none of those things at his disposal? Would I be more confident of him getting us promoted? Yes, I would because he’d hopefully be able to use the window to bring in those types of players.

    But for you and others to put him on a pedestal and treat him like Jesus Christ is just insane. Jesus didn’t really turn water into wine and Evans can’t turn shite, spineless players into something they’re not..!
     
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  5. BoingBoing

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    If that’s an indication, we’re fooked. He said similar things about Wright too and has started giving him games. If these are the quality of players on show next season, your demand for promotion will be way, way out
     
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  6. Fordy117

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    These are contracted players and like it our not most will be here.

    One of the reasons why I believe Rhodes has to go if Bowyer fails is because surely Rhodes knew we have at least 16 contracted players for next season and most will still be here and we needed a coach or man that could get the best out of a bad bunch.

    We're not going to get a new squad in.

    Bowyer is struggling already so is he the man for next season? Not sure but heads must roll if he isn't and pomotion has to be the aim even if you're playing for us!
     
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  7. Park bantam

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    You never said Fordy
     
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  8. Fordy117

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    Need to say it more because certain fans need to understand what the aim needs to be!
     
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  9. Bronco

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    By that you mean fans who have a different opinion to you on the subject.
     
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  10. Fordy117

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    No, fans that just go to the games because they've nothing better to do in life and the club is just nothing to them now apart from a habit and it's cheap.

    The club seems me that they're playing on the weak at the minute.

    The club won't more forward until fans start demanding better and aiming for success
     
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  11. BoingBoing

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    Deluded.

    If we don’t provide ingredients, it doesn’t matter how good the chef is, he can’t make a meal....!
     
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  12. BoingBoing

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    You mean ones that live in the real World and not a Fordy-shaped bubble????
     
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    I do demand better.... better fricking players than we have on the books today.

    Unless that changes, how can you expect anyone to get us promoted with this shower of shite???
     
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  14. Bronco

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    You can't tell fans when they can attend or otherwise, it does not make us any better for attending today.
    I will be attending today but it will be out of habit rather than me expecting a City win, it would be great to see a good game and a win but it might benifit Bowyer to select players today who would not normally get a start to see if they are up for it.
     
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    I would laugh if it wasn’t serious. Where the hell do you get the ideas about the many and varied fans that we have. You just spout away on here without any evidence whatsoever. I am sure the fans who have been going 50 years plus will love your description. They turn up to VP all weathers because it is habit and nothing better to do, oh I don’t care. Well I could find a number of things to do far more enjoyable than freezing to death in the sleet and snow!

    Now Rhodes has to go if Bowyer doesn’t deliver promotion next season, because he is the only one who knew we had 16 players contracted beyond the end of this season. You couldn’t make this up! hello earth to Fordy, I think Bowyer knows!
     
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    Who said 10-15 points form the first ten games would be enough? You haven’t even read it properly before you started bashing your keyboard have you?

    Whenever something is posted where someone backs the manager it’s you who replies with fordy next in line. Have you two ever been seen in the same room?

    I get you love Evans but he would not have changed it.
     
  17. BSABantam74

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    Well no I'm not buying that? Hopkin left I agree to get this off his CV. Sensible guy but at that point we have 33pts. I said Bowyer had to 1.Not allow us to get further cut adrift - we are now relegated with 3 games left and 10pts from safety have lost SEVEN on the bounce ! 2.Make us harder to beat - what the hell ? 3. Show me regardless of the personnel how a Bowyer team sets up?- haven't a clue have you ? - alongside some questionable selections. Fail Fail and thrice Fail! Saving us ultimately from relegation was not one of "my asks" but for God's sake it's just got abjectly worse and worse and it's virtually "flat lined". He's managed nothing ? He may as well have just stayed in the background and advised Drury and spent his time focused on next season. You call the players "imbeciles" but I don't agree it's how you "manage them". Loads of useless teams have bucked trends at some point and come up with something ? But this lot appear to be the "ultimate footballing imbeciles" ?? Sorry I don't agree no way are O'Brien Payne Butterfield Ball Doyle for example football imbeciles ! ..there bloody good players bit similar but darn good. So it's not them it's "The message" plus a failure to help them with a proper striker when that's what we needed.

    I didn't particularly ever want Evans to be our Manager but he gets stuff "on the margins". He may well not have saved us but certain that his presence would have generated a response on and off field that would have carried us a darn sight further than Bowyer has. We wouldn't have been relegated with three games to go !. Rhodes would not have awarded Evans a two year contract on the back of absolutely no substance to "his audition". I would not have wanted him to I'd have wanted Evans to show his credentials in the time he had. At the end of it either way we take a view and then decide how we want to approach League 2. If it hadnt worked thanks goodbye but if Evans had lifted the place and we'd run closer then we carry that momentum with us next season and Evans knows thst league for sure.

    Rhodes may well have appointed Bowyer in June in anycase and Evans gone ?But he would have arrived with a 'clean slate" with a club lifted by at least a fighting finish to this season and Bowyer has "no baggage" As it is the place is on its 'rse, the players moral is on the seabed ! and Bowyers credibility is totally "shot to pieces".

    There can't be any "honeymoon period" for Bowyer once this season is consigned to the garbage bin. He has to show his authority., quickly assemble a team to lift the Club automatically out of the Dark Age League and in the style of Lincoln or Luton. The very first signing he makes will define his tenure and our season. If it's a leader and fighter who we can connect with that will help Bowyer ..If it's a kid out of the Blackburn academy or a Blackpool reserve team player ...that won't reset the clock on Bowyers time at City. The first 6 games must be a 100% better than what he's conjured up so far. Anything less cannot be judged acceptable for "The biggest" club in the English Football League flirting with its continued membership of The 72.
     
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  18. Fordy117

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    Is the man that's worth 120m going to back the manager? That's all we can hope but we're not going to get rid of all our current squad.
     
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    Bit over the top with regards praising him, No one is putting him on a pedestal or treating him like Jesus Christ that is just over reaction from you, The point I was making was that he would have done things different and had a far better chance of keeping us up, He does not buy aggressive nasty players who stretch the rules he makes them as a style of play and it seems to work for him at least short term which is exactly what we required, Instead the board accepted relegation was certain and instead of trying avoid relegation they appointed a manager for next season before this one was lost
     
  20. Bronco

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    Very good post @BSABantam74@BSABantam74, just the one comment I disagree with, it would be great to see a "Gary Jones" type of player being the first signing most would be delighted, but unfortunatly that type of player could be the last piece of a sucsessful jigsaw, so although it would be a statement from the club and Bowyer I'm not bothered if said players is first in or last in.
     
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