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I think you're spot on. Bowyer has a system and wants certain qualities for certain positions. Anderson is the best option that he's got for what he wants there.

The continued inclusion of NKP and Chicksen is a bigger problem.

Either way, the squad needs such an overhaul and our fate this season is so nailed on, it's largely moot. It's going to take time and money to put a decent, balanced, honest side of 11 players out there.

 

You can play any style you want but if you can’t defend the simplest of attacks you will lose football matches.

Goals change games and we never give ourselves a chance to win a game when we are always chasing it. He can’t change the fact we have the worst set of defenders ever and it keeps costing us.

Peterborugh was decent but other than that I think has nothing to do with what system we play. We only have one option. Go central and play all our “better players “ down the middle. Teams switch onto that quickly, we get bogged down with no where to go, lose heart and eventually lose the game

 

shall we sack him now then? because thats worked really well for us recently hasn't it. This is the worst playing squad Ive ever seen at city and frankly guardiola would probably struggle with this sack of shite. the players have long since lost my confidence, they all need to go down to the last man. only then can any manager be judged properly

 

I could tell you, but then I'd have to....disappoint you!

I make it that in league matches we conceded 3+ goals 37 times from the 2011/2 season through last season. We've tended to do it between four and six times per season, last year increasing to eight and this year to *12*. It would be closer if you made it 4+ conceded: eight to six over that span.

Reflect on those numbers and weep:12 times 3 or more conceded, in which six times four or more.

I'm reminded of some quotes regarding one of the worst baseball teams of all time, the 1962 New York Mets:

i) "From the start, the trouble with the Mets was the fact they were not too good at playing baseball. They lost an awful lot of games by one run, which is the mark of a bad team. They also lost innumerable games by 14 runs or so. This is the mark of a terrible team. Actually, all the Mets did was lose. They lost at home and they lost away, they lost at night and they lost in the daytime. And they lost with manouevres that shake the imagination;"

ii) "You look up and down the bench and you have to say to yourself: 'Can't anybody here play this game?" and

iii) "We are a fraud."

The last two were by the manager! Change a few words, and you have us! Alas.

RCB

 

What did you think Bowyer would do? Turn around a group of brow beaten players who have lost every ounce of confidence left and who realise they don't have the tools as a team to do the job? He hasn't made them any worse, they couldn't be any worse mentally, our club has seen to that. Every week we see a team with no strength, no pace, a lack of height at set pieces, with probably a third or so the budget tied up in players who contribute nothing to club because of varying reasons. I hated today but it wasn't the fault of Bowyer nor in a large sense was it the fault of individual players. It was the fault of a ship thats been sinking and going round in circles all season, rudderless with no way of steering the bloody thing.

 

Bowyer mentioned this in his pulse interview. 80% of that side were his recruits.
The owners need to come out now and back him with a 2+ year contract. Then we can start planning for the future. Everything is so temporary.

Going back to Anderson, apparently he had potential a few years ago, maybe starting a fresh in league 2 might be the making of him.

 

According to the details in the programme Blackpool squad consisted of players recruited from Crewe, Fleetwood, Salford City, Barrow and Maidenhead United. The big striker was playing for Baroka. So it just shows that if you have someone who can bring together a group of players that fit together and play as a team you are half way to success. What we have done the last three transfer windows, especially the most important one last summer, is just bring in players willy billy with no thought as to the structure of the team. Bowyer proved he can put a team together at Blackpool, having seen first hand what he has here already and therefore knowing exactly what needs to be done, he must surely be given the chance to try and turning this sinking club around.

 

Paul Caddis is our best, most battling and consistent of players. I think O'Donnell is decent, and has had to perform heroics all too often because of our crap defence. Payne and O'Brien are both future very good footballers, but they won't be here after the season ends. Ball is a proper performer - please let's keep him. Everyone else, let them all go. Please. Please.

 

He’s played for a tactical reason. Probably does hidden things our fans choose not to see. He’s not there to to score goals and set up goals. You need one in every team.

Problem being is we lose every week, he “does little” in the fans eyes so Is the first easy target.

He’s probably not good enough but we are a bad side all over the park and no one has done themselves justice in it

 

Good point and question. It would make a lot of sense.

In his defence, Will Atkinson went on to do ok at Southen as well, so there was a player in there for sure.

 

Let’s not beat about the bush here. Anderson is a complete joke !

 

If you're speaking about the physical room itself then I'll personally drive up and paint it so they can both make a fresh start next season.

If you're speaking about the metaphorical room then I don't care. Those players have no credence, they are not a collective, they are not a group or a team and none of them will hopefully be here next season so let Bowyer continue with what he's doing.

 

from what I can see, league games only
2011-12 - we conceded 3 or more 6 times
2012-13 - we conceded 3 or more 6 times
2013-14 - we conceded 3 or more 5 times
2014-15 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2015-16 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2016-17 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2017-18 (up to when McCall left) - we conceded 3 or more 7 times
so far in 20118-19 - we conceded 3 or more 13 times

 

You mentioned Bowyer in the original post, the guy that left Blackpool at the beginning of the season,
notice how much bigger most of that team (their french striker/Nottingham/the number 6 in defence and number 5 in midfield) looks.
True they did have Spearing(who's legs must surely be going) and Delfounesco for some speed/flair but ask yourself this-
How much of this team was built by Bowyer?
Currently sniffing the outskirts of the playoffs.
What can he do for City with some help(budget).

After seeing him prefer to keep Anderson(he'll get up to game speed any time soon, 'honest guv) i cannot believe i am posting that Bowyer can be the man to turn us around.
But that Blackpool team dont look like mugs.

 

And to add to this today we played the same team and shape as we did against peterborugh save for one change in Payne for butterfield. Payne is a more than adequate replacement and butterfield was unlucky to miss out in my opinion but what is this miraculous shape you keep referring to that he’s getting wrong?

We won one game 3–1 and everyone wants to go back to that but if we play that same side over 10 games we will lose the majority of them because this squad is not good enough. The defence is atrocious. NKP is two years too old and should have gone in the summer. Chicksen is the worst left back we’ve had for years, O’Connor in my opinion is a better CDM than CB as he ain’t dominating enough. The goalie made a few clangers too but can be excused a bit as what’s in front of him and no specialist coach until recently.

I get we all want what’s best for the club but the squad is shocking. It has a few good players on paper but they are low on confidence and maybe frightened to do too much or make that extra run because every time we over commit we concede goals like today. That could be having an impact too. We make the wrong choices in possession because we have no out ball as we have no width. We get bogged down and lose it with no where to go.

You then get the hoof because players lose heart and expect to lose it anyway. You look back to McCall’s side and when we got to the play offs you had Cullen in midfield, he always wanted the ball and kept the team ticking. Vincelot always dropped to the defenders to pick up the balll. Then in front you had law who loved running at people and demanding the ball. In his first season Marshall was the same on one wing, always wanting it. Compare that to now? We have nothing of that sort.

 

I've gone off Bowyer big style after yesterday and I don't get the love-in for him on here. In his interview he kept saying 'I won't let that happen again' (or words to that effect). It begs the question why let it happen yesterday? On the back of two terrible defeats and now in the last chance saloon he sent out a team to play at pre-season friendly tempo rather than a team ready to scrap and fight for everything. IMO he set the tone for the afternoon. Coming out before the players to cross the pitch and clap the Blackpool fans. His focus should have been on Bradford City and there was no place for what he did which was unprofessional and disrespectful. Parkinson, McCall or any other previous manager you care to mention would never make such a show of affection for us pre-match in opposition. They would have been focussed and professional trying their upmost to get a result and that's what he should have been doing. Not making excuses for the players btw but would hope for better from someone charged with getting something from them.

 

Have you ever thought the current squad is the worst ever at VP and are just not good enough? It’s the 3rd persons attempt to get a side playing together and each and every time they concede 3 or more goals in a game like it’s whats normal now. And not only that, they put next to no effort in every single week

I bet we have conceded 3 or more goals this season more times than we ever did under McCall and Parkinson combined in the last 7 seasons or whatever it was. They are a shambles. @River_City_Bantam can maybe tell us.

 

Anderson a flair player

 

Unbelievable how a few still blame the managers. I was surprised when people got on Hopkin’s back as much as they did, but it was more understandable he at least had sometime and a window even if he did inherit the most gutless squad I’ve ever seen. But for some to want Bowyer gone already have a fecking day off! Time to start seeing the players for what they are!! Why do some always give them an easy time in modern football when they get paid the most, they’ve been terrible for 3 managers now, see the pattern. Regarding the thread, I just think some managers have their favourites. We’ve always had players no matter the manager where fans have thought wtf is he playing for. Regarding Atkinson, I don’t think he was bad just a player who needed good players around him to see the best of him, that first season wasn’t that time.