Bowyer and Anderson

He’s played for a tactical reason. Probably does hidden things our fans choose not to see. He’s not there to to score goals and set up goals. You need one in every team.

Problem being is we lose every week, he “does little” in the fans eyes so Is the first easy target.

He’s probably not good enough but we are a bad side all over the park and no one has done themselves justice in it

 

Does not matter because Bowyer has already lost the confidence of the players and dressing room, We have some poor players but he has managed to make them worse

 

I think you're spot on. Bowyer has a system and wants certain qualities for certain positions. Anderson is the best option that he's got for what he wants there.

The continued inclusion of NKP and Chicksen is a bigger problem.

Either way, the squad needs such an overhaul and our fate this season is so nailed on, it's largely moot. It's going to take time and money to put a decent, balanced, honest side of 11 players out there.

 

Good point and question. It would make a lot of sense.

In his defence, Will Atkinson went on to do ok at Southen as well, so there was a player in there for sure.

 

Let’s not beat about the bush here. Anderson is a complete joke !

 

shall we sack him now then? because thats worked really well for us recently hasn't it. This is the worst playing squad Ive ever seen at city and frankly guardiola would probably struggle with this sack of shite. the players have long since lost my confidence, they all need to go down to the last man. only then can any manager be judged properly

 

If you're speaking about the physical room itself then I'll personally drive up and paint it so they can both make a fresh start next season.

If you're speaking about the metaphorical room then I don't care. Those players have no credence, they are not a collective, they are not a group or a team and none of them will hopefully be here next season so let Bowyer continue with what he's doing.

 

Have you ever thought the current squad is the worst ever at VP and are just not good enough? It’s the 3rd persons attempt to get a side playing together and each and every time they concede 3 or more goals in a game like it’s whats normal now. And not only that, they put next to no effort in every single week

I bet we have conceded 3 or more goals this season more times than we ever did under McCall and Parkinson combined in the last 7 seasons or whatever it was. They are a shambles. @River_City_Bantam can maybe tell us.

 

Come on then, what does he bring to the team that fans choose not to see?

 

Will Atkinson was fine, bit lightweight but good enough to be in the starting 11. That french lad we signed under parky was a lot worse but also could do a job (sort of) when needed. Anderson is more a flair player, and they're much more hit and miss. The squad is just rubbish, they can't work together. You can't expect to sign a full team of new players and expect it to work. That's why it doesn't matter who we sign, no player is going to fit into a team like this

 

Atkinson a flair player? Honestly?

 

Anderson a flair player

 

I could tell you, but then I'd have to....disappoint you!

I make it that in league matches we conceded 3+ goals 37 times from the 2011/2 season through last season. We've tended to do it between four and six times per season, last year increasing to eight and this year to *12*. It would be closer if you made it 4+ conceded: eight to six over that span.

Reflect on those numbers and weep:12 times 3 or more conceded, in which six times four or more.

I'm reminded of some quotes regarding one of the worst baseball teams of all time, the 1962 New York Mets:

i) "From the start, the trouble with the Mets was the fact they were not too good at playing baseball. They lost an awful lot of games by one run, which is the mark of a bad team. They also lost innumerable games by 14 runs or so. This is the mark of a terrible team. Actually, all the Mets did was lose. They lost at home and they lost away, they lost at night and they lost in the daytime. And they lost with manouevres that shake the imagination;"

ii) "You look up and down the bench and you have to say to yourself: 'Can't anybody here play this game?" and

iii) "We are a fraud."

The last two were by the manager! Change a few words, and you have us! Alas.

RCB

 

from what I can see, league games only
2011-12 - we conceded 3 or more 6 times
2012-13 - we conceded 3 or more 6 times
2013-14 - we conceded 3 or more 5 times
2014-15 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2015-16 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2016-17 - we conceded 3 or more 4 times
2017-18 (up to when McCall left) - we conceded 3 or more 7 times
so far in 20118-19 - we conceded 3 or more 13 times

 

Unbelievable how a few still blame the managers. I was surprised when people got on Hopkin’s back as much as they did, but it was more understandable he at least had sometime and a window even if he did inherit the most gutless squad I’ve ever seen. But for some to want Bowyer gone already have a fecking day off! Time to start seeing the players for what they are!! Why do some always give them an easy time in modern football when they get paid the most, they’ve been terrible for 3 managers now, see the pattern. Regarding the thread, I just think some managers have their favourites. We’ve always had players no matter the manager where fans have thought wtf is he playing for. Regarding Atkinson, I don’t think he was bad just a player who needed good players around him to see the best of him, that first season wasn’t that time.

 

Paul Caddis is our best, most battling and consistent of players. I think O'Donnell is decent, and has had to perform heroics all too often because of our crap defence. Payne and O'Brien are both future very good footballers, but they won't be here after the season ends. Ball is a proper performer - please let's keep him. Everyone else, let them all go. Please. Please.

 

Thanks for your efforts. I was being optimistic with the 3+ but as you say this seasons figures are woeful

 

Slightly better than I gave them credit for. Still
A few games to go this season. Charlton to play soon too. God almighty it could get worse before it gets better

 

You mentioned Bowyer in the original post, the guy that left Blackpool at the beginning of the season,
notice how much bigger most of that team (their french striker/Nottingham/the number 6 in defence and number 5 in midfield) looks.
True they did have Spearing(who's legs must surely be going) and Delfounesco for some speed/flair but ask yourself this-
How much of this team was built by Bowyer?
Currently sniffing the outskirts of the playoffs.
What can he do for City with some help(budget).

After seeing him prefer to keep Anderson(he'll get up to game speed any time soon, 'honest guv) i cannot believe i am posting that Bowyer can be the man to turn us around.
But that Blackpool team dont look like mugs.