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Adams & Sparks out!

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Sep 18, 2021.

  1. Dratsab taf

    Dratsab taf Squad Player

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    Shit will hit the fan here eventually, Adams has nothing to lose really apart from a few quid. Everyone has failed here apart from 2 managers, it won't look bad on his CV at all as he will just point to Plymouth, Ross county and morecambe.

    I think he calls out sparks and rupp soon and puts the ball in their court. He doesn't give a monkeys really about this club yet and would likely walk straight into a new job tomorrow given the chance, same cannot be said for Sparks.
     
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  2. bantamdave41

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    Mr F.

    I can be very impulsive, rash. Call it what you want. As you know, I've outlined my reasons for keeping DA. He is certainly not inspiring me with his football but I'm trying to see the bigger picture and in Adams, I feel he is someone who can arrest our decline. Yep, at the moment that is my aspirations!!

    Your reply in fairness is a good retort and I assume you mean, if he isn't trusted, then he should go. Possibly.

    But I fear if we cannot turn around the years of decline, this club could ultimately go the wrong way out of this league. The warning signs over the last two years are their clear to see for everyone.

    I predicted midtable preseason. Lack of goals was my worry. Getting rid of Adams Imo won't mean a new shiny set of players from pastures new. It will be same budget constraints, same knockings from lower end league 2 teams, same injury prone players. Can a new manager get better from the same constraints?

    I remember a certain poster saying it will take us "5 years" to recover from Rahic. A week on Thursday, Rahic will be gone 3 years. But the issue of budget, clearly has not gone. Most of the signings preseason were from teams that finished below us, last season. Surely a clue to our dilemma....

    Maybe I'm being stubborn, blind rather than rash and impulsive but Adams (in my eyes) has to stop the rot first.

    Boy, in itself, that's a job.
     
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  3. Fordy117

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    FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT IS BASED ON RESULTS!
     
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  4. bantamdave41

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    I know I have no substance to make this statement but I really worry for the future of this club, if he was sacked. Dramatic I may be?

    I just can't see any manager or coaching set up get a genuine tune out of this lower end league 2 assembled squad, injury ridden with a distinct lack of goals between them.
     
  5. Foghornleghorn

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    Cast your minds back to Bloomfield Road April 2018.
    City fans in the stadium had just witnessed a humiliating defeat (5 - 0) at the hands of Blackpool.
    The manager that day was Simon Grayson another in the long line of managers who have tried to change our fortunes but left swiftly through the exit door.
    Standing at the back of the away stand that day I felt let down by the players attitude,no fight no commitment and very little passion on show.Why? Three years down the line stood at the back of the stand at Scunthorpe, freezing and watching another lacklustre display I ask those who spend their hard earned cash, has anything changed bar the managers name over said period and have we recruited some really poor players with selfish attitudes who care only about themselves.
    The easy option every time is to sack the manager leaving the guys who cross the white line to escape scrutiny and simply play for the new man while it suits.
    I'm sick of the managerial merry go round and believe Adams could well be one another in the long list of Bradford City casualties.
    Stability would appear of the menu at Valley Parade.
    In my opinion the players are to blame after all how can every manager employed by our club fail to issue instructions to its playing staff before a game.
    Must be a lot of deaf ears down at City.
    Nothing changes, bring in another manager but remember the playing staff remain and are simply not good enough.
     
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  6. Tight1-0Victory

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    Sparks needs to be brave here he has got the man he wanted on the back of endless resets and the Rahic boys want yet another reset because that's what Rahic would have done

    Not for me is it good no is it awful also no is it disappointing of course it is but Sparks needs to be brave now and not sack Adams and for once we need to just stick by someone doesn't matter who doesn't matter how from if Sparks sacks Adams he can sack himself he has achieved nothing is wasting our time
     
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  7. Rogered Tart

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    Sparks won't sack Adams regardless of what happens this season.
     
  8. Rcbantam

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    Listen to Adams interview last night it's clear to me he hasn't had a say in the majority of these players.

    Adams is playing with the cards he's been delt with by Sparks and Turnbull. Shafted more like. And not for the first time this season our Manager isn't happy or impressed with how this club is run. Totally understandable. I'm not either.

    So our past is coming back to bite us.

    Captain Admin... Gives the CEO job to a nobody with no experience in running a football. Now Sparks is hiding because this season is a mess of his own doing.
    He better hope and pray Adams stays and can keeps us up. There's no promotion this season.
    Sparks.. And our Silent owner Better Back Adams in January or its non league for us!
     
  9. Rcbantam

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    I'm going with... Adams has been lied to.
     
  10. Biker

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    As much as this situation is dreadful right now i dont think Adams should be sacked, its clear now and has been for some time that the squad is lacking in quality, and his hands are tied because of that. I do question selling Crankshaw but hey ho.

    Time to galvanise and get behind them all , its the only way. A player like Andy Cook is s huge miss to this side.

    Its those at the top that are the real ones letting us down Rupp and Sparks (for what its worth) lets hear what you've got to say about it all?
     
  11. Ollylondonbantam

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    His interview after last night says it all for me. Adam’s speaks with honesty, sense and clear articulation of someone who knows exactly what he’s here to do and what he needs to achieve. Sadly he doesn’t have the tools and with injuries to add, I defy anyone who wouldn’t be frustrated.

    For the first time since Parky I trust the manager we have. The owner and CEO must do the same and do whatever we can this transfer window.
     
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  12. Idlebantam

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    Your best constructive post ever on here
     
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  13. vladimir

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    Fully agree the club needs a boatload of Investment but sadly there appears noone prepared to take it on, god knows were we go from here
     
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  14. donhutchinsaffro

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    Something not right. Sparks said Adams was involved in recruitment?!? Turnbull gone. I actually thought Crankshaw was ok and Rowe was. Rowe. Now we hear he had nothing to do with some of the players?!? Interesting time gents. Don’t listen to any Exeter comments on adams they hate I mean bordering on how much we dislike weeds hate ….. Plymouth ….. I love my club. I am giving my son a 44 pound bcfc retro shirt this weekend so he can run around his footy pitch in it this weekend training for his team.
     
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  15. Faithful Bantam

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    You're misunderstanding me. I'm not giving him credit and I don't rate what he's done so far. Its not about backing him because I like what I see.

    What I'm saying is, he inherited a shit show. Port Vale have shown that if you're organised properly, you can transform your side fully in a single summer. We weren't organised properly, and I doubt the extent to which he was backed. How much of the recruitment decisions - such as selling Crankshaw and signing Robinson, was down to him? I don't have a problem with him loaning out the youth either - with the exception of Staunton, they aren't ready yet. Injuries - again, are we signing sick notes? Is the training and sports science dept up to scratch? Adams says he's using the methods he's always used and never had the problem before. So, again, the problem seems deeper - as it usually is with this club.

    What I'm saying is, there are no more excuses - he's had time to assess his squad, he's now been given control of recruitment, he's deployed his own scouts. So the ingredients are there for him to go and strengthen properly in Jan. What would bringing a new manager in do? It'd reset the excuse clock, that's what itd do. And thats what I'm against.

    If he's backed in Jan and there's no improvement, then its on Adams and he may need to go.

    If he's not backed, its on the club. And whichever manager replaces Adams, they have the same limited tools to work with anyway, so whats the point?

    Until we show some proper ambition and capability- which starts with the owner, I don't see us going anywhere. We're a pointless, embarrassing entity.
     
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  16. Petrov

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    Whether people agree or disagree with the way he so openly placed the blame solely on the players last night, the fact is that what he said was 100% correct. Some don't like to hear the truth spoken so honestly because they worry about the effect it will have on the players, but how many excuses, season after season do people want to keep giving them when the truth is that they simply aren't good enough? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say Adams is Mr Perfect because he's far from being that and his stubbornness at times frustrates the hell out of me. But he is not the problem here, and anyone that thinks he is and that another manager could get a decent tune out of the current crop of players needs to give their head a wobble.
     
  17. bantamlad92

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    He needs to go before we’re battling to preserve our Football League status.

    He bangs on about chances created but it’s been the story of our season. If they’re not going in the net then it means sweet FA.

    Too many people think he’ll get a magic wand on the 1st of January and we’ll be winning every game scoring 2/3+ per match.

    It’s a results business and he’s failing miserably. He’s lost the dressing room. He needs to go.

    Flynn In!
     
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  18. Petrov

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    He sets the team up to create chances, the players are then expected to put those chances in the back of the net. That's their job, it's. what they get paid to do but they aren't doing it.
     
  19. bantamlad92

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    Creating chances is one element of his job. It is also up to the manager to coach the team to put the ball in the back of the net.

    Putting the ball in the back of the net is something they can work on in training and part of the responsibility of that element of the game also falls on Derek.

    You’re echoing his words from his interviews but in truth he’s deflecting the blame on anyone but himself.
     
  20. Jordan

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    We just don't have good enough attacking players. I cant see coaching changing that when our striking options are 31 (AC), 27 (LA), 32 (TR) & 29 (CL). At their ages, those lads shouldn't still need a coach to help them put a ball in the back of the net, if they are still professional strikers by that age, they should know where the net is.

    Only thing i'll pin on Adams is i dont think his tough love and tough training approach flows with a lot of the players. Especially your pros who have been here a few years. I mean the amount of different regimes has O'Donnell, Paudie, Cooke who have been around the place for a good few years now.

    When new lads come in, those 3 are the types who will likely give them a run down on the club and how it operates on the field and when all these players know is dross performances and relegation, what do you expect to eventually show?

    You can change the boss all you want, Paudie has played for 5 different managers since he joined, Cooke has had 4, O'Donnell has played for 6 managers, but that stink of failure is still in the spine of your team and wont change. Players who's experience at a club is nothing but failure and misery is never going to end well, especially when they make up the spine of your team. Once it starts going wrong and poor results come, they've seen it all far too often at the same club and the heads just drop and are hard to get back.
     

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