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87/88 v 98/99 Squads - pick your best hybrid team

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Offcomedun, Dec 9, 2020.

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  1. Offcomedun

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    That promotion side under Jagger was a thing of beauty. Such a well balanced team. Oh to have the likes of McCall and Whalley in midfield and Mills, Blake and Beagrie scoring for fun.
     
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  2. Ulysses S Grant

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    It was. but the 87/88 team were even better in terms of the football they played. Now that was a thing of beauty.
     
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  3. TallinnBantam

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    WINGERS!
     
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    I loved watching the 87,88 side but the football played under Jewell in the promotion season was the best football I've ever seen from a City side. Don't think I'll ever see anything like it again.
     
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    Those three goals against Wolves (and the entire match) was the perfect example of what we were like that season. I remember gasping out loud when Blakey got set up to score. You just knew there was goals in that team.
     
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  6. Offcomedun

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    But the difference is that the 98/99 side actually got promotion.
    It's interesting to compare the two teams, player for player. If you made a hybrid team, who would be in the starting XI? McCall, obviously, since he was common to both. Hendrie would get in ahead of Lawrence but the rest of the attack and midfield would be from 98/99. Leigh Palin, at his best, would get in ahead of Whalley but he was a bit part player that season and only ever showed his best in patches.
    Player for player the 87/88 back four was better, I reckon. Goddard v Jacobs is hard to call. I'd maybe have a CM pairing of Bruno and Sinbad, but that's tough on Evans. Walsh v Tommo is equally hard, as both were brilliant.
    Thoughts?
     
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  7. bantamdave41

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    I remember both fondly. It's easy in my mind.
     
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  8. Offcomedun

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    I used to go to matches with a group of blokes who did a prediction competition in the pub beforehand. It was one pound to enter. We drew lots for order of prediction. You couldn't make a prediction that anyone drawn ahead of you had already made, and you weren't allowed to predict a City defeat. So, in normal seasons, if you were drawn late in the list you were forced to predict cricket scores that you knew had almost no chance of occurring. Those drawn early obviously predicted safe scores like 1-1, 2-1 etc. But that season, by Christmas, people were getting drawn early, predicting 3-0 and 4-1 wins and winning the pot. As you say, you knew there were goals in that team and even if they went one behind you were always confident that they'd score two and win it. The diametric opposite of our current shower.
     
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    You're cheering me up now. Choosing between them is a problem but oh I wish we had those problems now. Lookng after the 87/88 disappointment even Steve Torpey would walk into the present team.
     
    #9 1975citygent, Dec 10, 2020
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    You're right, as well as skill, work rate and commitment was a factor in those days, sadly missing big style today....
     
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    Can't really disagree with that, though Hendrie played as a second striker in 87/88 rather than a winger (Dolan played 5/3/2). I think Palin/ Kennedy/ McCall shades the midfield over McCall & Whalley. Jacobs was a better full back, but Goddard worked well in that back five. Bruno was good, but I would put Gavin Oliver in any side we had at that level or below. What let the 87/88 team down was the strikers though we lost 11 in both seasons.

    Don't forget 87/88 was also a good year in all the cups - FA Cup 5th Round, SF of Full Members Cup & QF of League Cup
     
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    He probably would, but he didn't sign for us until 1990. Amazed to find he played nearly 650 games and actually had a pretty good career in the end.
     
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    Brave to point out that one of the best City teams of the modern age didn't play the legendary success guaranteeing 4-4-2!
     
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    It was clearly a terrible formation, amazed it was such a good season.
     
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    Would have been Champs with a better formatiom, It held a good team back losing in the important games
     
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  16. River_City_Bantam

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    Just imagine...take the best 22 from those sides combined...starters and cover sorted! What a subs bench you'd have every match!

    Keeper? Can't go wrong with either. I'd go with a mostly 87/8 back line -- no way I could leave out Evans or Mitchell or Oliver (agree with the President on that one), the 98/9 forwards, and a hybrid midfield -- Kennedy and Stuart the givens, with a place reserved as well for Hendrie.

    RCB
     
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    Could start a thread on that and selecting a first 11 with 5 subs from this squads available. It'd be a decent debate I'd bet.
     
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  18. Offcomedun

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    Good shout.
    I've started a new thread.
    Mods - do you want to move the off topic posts about past teams out of here and into the new thread I started?
     
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  19. Offcomedun

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    Rather than continue the off-topic discussion in the Recruitment Help thread, this thread is to reminisce about better times and pick your best combined first XI from our two best second tier squads in living memory - the Nearly Season of 87/88 and the promotion squad of 98/99.
    Who would be in your starting team and why?
    I'm going with
    Walsh
    Goddard
    Sinnott
    Moore
    Mitchell
    Beagrie
    Whalley
    McCall
    Hendrie
    Mills
    Blake
    The subs bench would be insane.
     
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  20. How

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    How under-rated was Whalley? Loved him in that 98/99 team
     
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