Attendance Levels (Now with Poll)

I imagine they would have to provide the actual numbers to prospective "commercial Partners" as well. Either way, I can't see why regular fans get so bothered by the crowd numbers, its not as if we get or lose points if the 2 figures are not the same.
I couldn't give a flying one what they announce the crowd as on Saturday.

 

Could our high attendance figures actually be detrimental to on-field performances?

For example, in home games in the cup this season we've won 3-0 and 5-1 in front of less than 2k and played with a lot more freedom and less anxiety on the pitch.

In pre-season against Championship opposition we drew in front of low crowds (yet played one of those teams again in front of 15k and lost with a whimper).

Could it be that our squad which is vastly made up of players who aren't used to performing in front of big crowds have stage fright? Bigger crowds are suited to better players who have earned that spot in the limelight - we get bigger crowds than some Premier League teams with 4th division (and lower) players. Some of our lot must almost feel guilty showcasing their vastly substandard talents in front of a far larger crowd than they deserve.

 

Could be but when the likes of Pompey abd plymouth have been down here with i imagine far demanding fans then thats the counter argument.

The likes of Wrexham will no doubt have huge pressure on them but will no doubt see it through.

Parky had it from 2011 to his last season and we still coped, McCall the season after when we went unbeaten at home.

 

It's a failure of management and recruitment to not identify the right kind of character in new signings. Parkinson had his recruitment strategy right for us in league 2, lots of experienced pros and players who clearly responded to, and thrived under, pressure.

In an ideal world we'd bring through lots of our own youth, or polish youngsters released from higher up the pyramid - but it isn't necessarily the right strategy for us.

 

Our 2 win the EFL Trophy were Man City u19s and Barnsley B so I wouldn't be reading too much into them. We only had 3,500 against Wycombe and lost. Possibly our best home performance this season was against Wrexham and that was 21,500.

 

Doesn't agree to the @Park bantam narrative

 

From a commercial point of view it makes sense to say to prospective sponsors etc., We have X amount of ST and walk up X, and overall attendance is X amount.

 

Who's pulling down on the club and who is denying buying a season ticket isn't supporting the club
We are in a situation where something has to change I know you don't realise and obviously don't want to but that's your perogative I call it burying your head in the sand
I would imagine sponsors/potential owners would request the number of bums on seats to base any investment on would be foolish not to

 

If people are overly bothered about the exact numbers they could try and put in a FOI request to WYP, or Bradford Council. That has worked previously for journalists for PL clubs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45158878#:~:text=So%20why%20the%20difference%3F,tickets%20that%20are%20not%20used.

 

New EFL reporting rules . It’s tickets plus seasons sold .

 

Regardless of season ticket prices, there has to be a fan-base willing to buy them. Which we have in abundance.

Also last season home game v Carlise attracted 22,000 , all paying full price.

That's why majority of clubs in L1 and L2 look on enviously. And why most clubs dont adopt cheaper ticket policy because they still wouldn't shift the numbers we do to make it worthwhile.

 

No, it's an excuse.

The cup games you mentioned were against an u21 side and a largely reserve side padded out with kids.

If we were really held back by large crowds what's the excuse for the MK Dons, Sutton and Morecambe performances for instance?

 

The level of support this club gets is the only thing it has right now (besides our academy which was a WIP far before Rupp) and seems to be the main point of attack for anyone defending the amateurish shambles at the top. 4th worst performing club since Rupp took over but it's the same fans who saw us through the brief good times that predated him that are the issue.

Attendances have never been the issue. They floundered during covid when there were no fans. We are not going to magically start performing like the galacticos once our attendances drop to 9k. We're shit because our setup is shit.

The price of STs are justified by the dross we're served. I doubt many would have a problem with an ST price rise if the budget wasn't squandered on absolute shite by a clueless regime. You put these people in charge of any of the smaller clubs in the EFL and they'd be below the NL by now.

 

It may well be, however I was referring solely to home matches. There's a different weight and height of expectation in front of a huge crowd at home than the away fixtures you mentioned.

This could also be a part of Derek Adams failure here.

 

It's still an excuse.

Unless we can play u19 and reserve sides every week and then we'd probably be champions of Europe.

 

By rule of thumb the fullness of the stadium usually dictates how well or poorly you are playing or if you are playing one of the divisions bigger sides. The other factor being the weather. Technically you are correct, money wise it doesn't matter how many season ticket holders turn up as they have already paid in advance. Especially when the vast majority of your support has one.

 

Plus an excellent guide as to what to expect next season's tickets will yield
It's got to be factored in to the planning (sorry non planning) of budgets/signings etc
It's key information really

 

Are you saying potential sponsors on here aren't interested in actual attendees
Ok